Mary Sue Characters

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>Not Aang
>The character whos whole point is being the mary sue of the show

she was perfect in the original series before getting raped in korra as hard as yoda got raped in the pequels and last jedi

STOP RAPING YODA YOU FUCKS

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I know the conflicts of the show are basically more centered around emotional conflict but this guy get deus ex'd out of most problems by his powers, plot convenience, other characters, and talking his way out of things. And much of the time he's usually in the 'right'. Most of the actual consequences he faces are so minimal, don't happen at all, or are so delayed that it feels like nothing.

And now that he can resurrect the dead and will possibly be able to put shattered gems back together by the end of the series allows for even less stakes and consequences.

Also even though he's the titular character the story suffers from being solely based around his perspective.

How the fuck is Aang a mary sue? He spends the entire show getting wrecked by Azula and never masters earth or water bending.

Still waiting for you to start OP.

How is not right? Honestly though TLJ was the worst star wars movie for many other reasons, i didnt mind the yoda part.

He literally learns how to steal peoples powers making them normal, if that's not over powered I don't know what is

This. At least in his earlier seasons his innocence was a detriment at times but Steven being right about everything, every time is getting old.

>Mary Sue
>male

Toph? Seriously? Katara exists you know. At least Toph gets herself into mistakes and has to either learn from them or live with them. She also had Appa stolen from her and had the snot beat out of her a handful of times and is treated like comic relief like Sokka.

Fuck you the Yoda part was among the scenes in that movie that not only were awesome but made the movie ten times better and more memorable for being in it.

shut up

>stealth Toph thread

niceeee

And this ladies and gentlemen is what an Autist looks like.

She has one GLARING flaw obvious from her introduction, its even pointed out and explained

She's an earthbending prodigy from the get go.

That's sum nice bait, user, but I just woke up so I'm too groggy to really feel anger yet. Try again later

What time?

Toph became a massive slut later on so it evened out

He learned how to do that in the last fucking episode of the show, you dipshit. He spent most of his time jobbing to Azula and pretty much any other top tier bender.

>he's over powered
For 99% of the shoe, no he's not. And he's the avatar. He's supposed to be overpowered.

Besides all of that though, being overpowered =/= being a mary sue. Mary sue means a character has no faults and everything they do is near perfect with ease.

>It's a "Mary Sue equals a character who is OP and/or a shitty charter I don't like" thread
Friendly reminder that Mary Sue's needs to be:
>Writer/Creator self-insert
>Entire plot and story revolves around them
>Is beloved by everyone except for characters we are told as to be the "bad guys"
>Either has no flaws or are given "non-flaws" which are positive traits skewed to look negative and never have any real consequences i.e. Character is too innocent, too beautiful, too smart, etc.
>Character seemingly wins every situation with little to no effort; they don't go through any particular large obsticle
>Character has no personal development or growth
>Side characters developments and growth are directly proportioned and based around main character i.e They are in love with main character, they realize the main character is arbitrarily right about something, etc.

Remember, All Mary Sue's are shit characters but not all shit characters are Mary Sue's.

>Character has no personal development or growth
This is accurate.

how has this not been posted

And yet she is powerless against anyone in sand or in the air. She gets pelted by aerial strikes all the time. I think you mean prodigy as in defeating a bunch of clueless goons in a match that one time. She was also captured and then escaped without the help of anyone like some stupid damsel. Don't confuse badassery with mary sue.
Not only that but she needed Iroh's guidance or she would've ditched Aang and co.

How exactly does Toph translate to mary sue again? Because she's good at Earthbending? Did you forget Boomy could also earthbend with his chin?

Hol up

Is it safe to assume neither of you suffered through that last steven bomb where the entire thing was about Connie being miffed at Steven? Cause it all boils down to Steven 'being wrong' despite having to deal with a lose lose situation and him agonizing the whole bomb until he's forced to apologize to Connie.

If you wanna take it a step further consider Connie's character throughout the show. She's given about every power-up a Mary Sue could ask for (hindering the little butterball's own plausible character growth) and is right every single time. The show's hit the point where every problem is being solved by fusing Steven with the very character that limits his development.

Steven Unverse isn't a Gary Stu he's not even the main character anymore.

>She's an earthbending prodigy from the get go.

so

All Mary Sue's what are shit characters? What is it of Mary Sue's that is a shit character?

Christ, do they even teach apostrophes and plural nouns in school these days?

>STOP RAPING YODA YOU FUCKS

Ah good, the porn parody no-one asked for.


Uppity little jim henson yoda is OT yoda; the TLJ scenes could be considered incongruous, but only if one was too used to the, admittedly extremely impressive for early 2000s and still pretty good now, CGI yoda.

Good

God bless Morganagod, for his Titty Toph art is just the best thing.

OT Yoda a shit. Prequel one a best

Is this the /r/eddit man at work?

The prequels made Yoda better you dumb jew

what about that time toph was in the wooden jail cell and had no way out except katara? Or the serpents pass when she got knocked into the water?

Also did she ever learn to Earthbend sand?

>"I have no idea what a mary sue is"
>being overpowered is the same as being a mary sue
>"I have no idea what a mary sue is"
>spirit bending is overpowered
He risk losing his own power when he does it, that's what the whole force of will battle is, it's not in anyway op in the first place, not that that would make him a mary sue
>not screaming about how every character you don't like is a mary sue
Plebeian

you knew she was coming

okay

>Entire plot and story revolves around them
Is Spider-Man a mary sue because his comics are all about him?

Maybe read the entire fucking post, dumbass.

> She's given about every power-up a Mary Sue could ask for (hindering the little butterball's own plausible character growth)

She might have unrealistic abilities but she doesn't have a laundry list of powers that could potentially nullify most stakes or consequences. She can't raise the dead, she can't heal everyone, she doesn't have bubbles that can defend her from a shit ton of attacks or environmental conditions, she doesn't have a healing factor, and she can't talk her way out of practically every problem. And not every problem in the series is resolved by her or surrounds/is based in her or her mom's legacy.

More OP than she should be? Yes.

Worse than Steven? Hell no. In fact she gets her OP shit directly and indirectly because of Steven.

You said it yourself with >problem is being solved by fusing Steven
>FUSING WITH STEVEN
>STEVEN


>he's not even the main character anymore.

What? Even based on the second to last bomb it was entirely from Steven's perspective. Connie was barely in it physically. The whole point was that Connie wasn't around or even talking to Steven causing him to mope around. She was more of a plot device to make Steven sad/mad.

You realize there was more than one line in that post, right?
Also that's not true, most of the villains goals, or even other character's motivations have very little to do with Spider-man, the world doesn't revolve around him. Spider-man is not some chosen one who the fate of the world depends on, he's just a kid who decided to take up the responsibility on his own.

90% of Sup Forums has no idea what Mary Sue means and constantly uses it to describe everyone they don't like. Every user should be required to read the actual story that created the term "Mary Sue" before they're allowed to ever use it in a post

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Fuck it. No one is going to follow the link and it's pretty short, so here's the whole thing:

>"Gee, golly, gosh, gloriosky," thought Mary Sue as she stepped on the bridge of the Enterprise. "Here I am, the youngest lieutenant in the fleet - only fifteen and a half years old." Captain Kirk came up to her. "Oh, Lieutenant, I love you madly. Will you come to bed with me?" "Captain! I am not that kind of girl!" "You're right, and I respect you for it. Here, take over the ship for a minute while I go get some coffee for us." Mr. Spock came onto the bridge. "What are you doing in the command seat, Lieutenant?" "The Captain told me to." "Flawlessly logical. I admire your mind."

>Captain Kirk, Mr. Spock, Dr. McCoy and Mr. Scott beamed down with Lt. Mary Sue to Rigel XXXVII. They were attacked by green androids and thrown into prison. In a moment of weakness Lt. Mary Sue revealed to Mr. Spock that she too was half Vulcan. Recovering quickly, she sprung the lock with her hairpin and they all got away back to the ship.

>But back on board, Dr. McCoy and Lt. Mary Sue found out that the men who had beamed down were seriously stricken by the jumping cold robbies , Mary Sue less so. While the four officers languished in Sick Bay, Lt. Mary Sue ran the ship, and ran it so well she received the Nobel Peace Prize, the Vulcan Order of Gallantry and the Tralfamadorian Order of Good Guyhood.

>However the disease finally got to her and she fell fatally ill. In the Sick Bay as she breathed her last, she was surrounded by Captain Kirk, Mr. Spock, Dr. McCoy, and Mr. Scott, all weeping unashamedly at the loss of her beautiful youth and youthful beauty, intelligence, capability and all around niceness. Even to this day her birthday is a national holiday of the Enterprise.

So for future reference, this is the kind of character that warrants "Mary Sue." Not everyone who is powerful or simply the protagonist of a story.

>Is it safe to assume neither of you suffered through that last steven bomb where the entire thing was about Connie being miffed at Steven
Rightfully so, he did something retarded, mostly out of character, and without consideration for anyone else.
>Cause it all boils down to Steven 'being wrong'
You clearly didn't watch the episode, considering the resolution to this was Connie basically saying she just felt betrayed, the show attempts to portray the situation as though there was mutual wrongdoing despite the fact that Steven did everything wrong. The show attempts to portray the problem as "Steven just being too selfless" even though that was not the case.

>She's given about every power-up a Mary Sue could ask for
Such as, having no powers, doing almost nothing, needing to fuse with Steven to even contribute in any mildly meaningful capacity.
But oh no, she has a sword, she is clearly an overpowered badass that no one can stop and has her skills for absolutely no reason whatsoever despite the fact that the show has shown that she trains regularly with a thousand year old swordmaster.

>is right every single time
About fucking what, she's had very few conflicts to be right about
>The show's hit the point where every problem is being solved by fusing Steven
It is at this point I realize this is a bait post, but I'm continuing this anyway.

>character that limits his development
>Character development
>in SU
lol

SU has more writing issues than anyone can even nail down, but people still scapegoat Connie despite the fact she's one of the few things the writer's have handled rather consistently well.

Oh Christ, I'm getting flashbacks to the Stephen Ratliff fanfics featuring Marissa Amber Flores Picard.

WHY WON'T THESE MEMORIES GO AWAY

Toph's too much of a bitch to be a Mary Sue
People need to realize powerful =/= Mary Sue

I don't see how she is a self insert character please explain