How long can he survive off nostalgia?

how long can he survive off nostalgia?

I'm assuming forever since whenever people try something new with Superman, people scream about it.

until everyone nostalgic about him is dead

He'll outlive you.

His appeal was at it's highest when america was more homogenous and everyone generally shared the same values. The WW2 age and atomic age were a different time where people were super into science fiction and shit. People have grown a lot more cynical in the past few decades and are more captivated by death and mortality (batman fights death, superman fights the impossible) so it's not surprising that batman has grown in popularity while superman struggles as retards try to deconstruct him while missing the point of the character.

Weak bait, i'm sure you'll get a few reply but your thread will be achived in no time.

fuck off

Icons are immortal, he's part of the world culture now.

Superman Returns and Man of Steel didn't make great money for their budgets and Cap in the MCU is more popular now and the MCU is going to bring in Mar-Vell, Hercules, and Wonderman. So his popularity will be diminished by these future things more than it has been if something isn't done in the future to help it.

And yet people almost universally love Jon.

>been around for 80 years
>character is literally older than OP's grandparents
>I-it's all nostalgia!

I don't think it works that way.

But he doesn't survive off nostalgia.

About as long as Dracula and Sherlock Holmes can.

He's been around for literally 80 years, has two TV shows currently ongoing plus a co-star role in two ongoing cartoons, has been several recent AAA video games, and just starred in a movie trilogy that, while disappointing and arguably shit, still made $2.3 billion at the box office. He's not going anywhere. Just in a slump. But hell, he's still much better off today than he was even 10 years ago.

>Its not Superman its just everyone else
When will Superfags stop repeating this? Superman was created during the fucking great depression and America wasn't as united as you think back then. Just admit that people just like Batman more not just because he is "le Dark" but he is just more liked.

This is what his son is about.

That boy is gonna hear his dad's heart fade is less than 20 or so years.

>the world will cry

This.

OP is a massive faggot.

Golden age superman, stemming from siegel's own frustration with powerlessness (clark kent is mild mannered siegel who fantasizes about what the girls would think about him if they knew who he really was inside, siegel created a bulletproof man the year after his father dies in a corner store robbery, etc.) appealed to the frustration of a country that had endured struggle and powerlessness. Here was superman, a guy who could go around righting all the wrongs in the world.

Every essential element of batman is there almost from the very beginning. Within the first two years the core of batman and his villains are established and remain as we see them now.

There's a combination of DC abandoning the roots of what made superman a worldwide phenomenon through the golden and silver age, and society becoming more interested in the foundations of what make batman a timeless character that are responsible for the current imbalance in their popularity.

But Superfags complain about silver age Superman all the time and want the white bread post crisis Superman. Admit it, Superman is just too big to do anything good with him. He doesn't even sell much, and basically has a handful of people holding him hostage.

Post-Crisis superman is in large part responsible for the public seeing him as a boring cardboard cut-out. When the marvel folks came over to DC and insisted that superman could be improved by depowering him and having him engage in rote metropolis slugfests highlighted by daily planet politics that no one cares about and clark being the 'real person,' it's no surprise that he fell so far out of favor and hasn't recovered since. All-star is the highlight of superman's existence since crisis, because it features the actual superman and fully embraces everything that makes him who he is.

DC just released a story confirming he's around millions of years in the future, so no worries there m8

A long fucking time. Even if there's no stellar Superman anything for the next 40 years, he's wedged too deep into our culture for him to fade away.

itt: muh special snowflake edgy "complex" capeshitter is better than superdork

Captain Marvel (excuse me, Shazam) > Superman

>[They] want the white bread post crisis Superman.
Fuck Byrneman. He's shit.
Superman as Siegel wrote him was great. He had an adolescent quality to him and, once his near physical perfection was established, his stories were essentially puzzles and explorations of Clark and his friends as characters. Clark being "faultless" instead of simply an extremely positive role model sucks and stems from Byrne's autism.

>the MCU is going to bring in Mar-Vell, Hercules, and Wonderman.
Got any proof of that?

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This pretty much sums it up. Supes will be rebranded as a Muslim transgender female in the remake real soon!

Jon is a bit saccharine for my taste

I have an idea for a Superman story.

Superman gets mindswapped into some rando’s body. But still wants to save the day and be a hero.

Superior superman.

Similar stories have been done. In one story, Batman got Superman's powers, and Supes was rendered human, and they basically swapped.

Also, during a recent crossover, Superman was left in a Gotham City copy in a pocket dimension, was rendered powerless, and just became Batman, literally.

Don't agree. Ground level Supes is what Siegel intended, Silver Age ruined it by having him essentially be a god and push planets around to appeal to kid fantasies and now no one takes him seriously because "He's too powerful".

>Mar-vell and Wonderman
>Literally who
>Characters that could only be momentarily relevant because of the crossovers

Supes' gonna be fine. He has been relevant all these years even without having a movie every week. The OP should be more worried about shit characters like AntMan or Strange, whose popularities rely on the actors playing them and the crossover movies.