Was Dredd ever in the wrong?
Was Dredd ever in the wrong?
Bentley Perez
Brayden Perez
Matthew Bennett
Tyler Rodriguez
Anthony Lee
Austin Flores
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Alexander Sullivan
JUDGE PALS!
Charles Hernandez
Much like OP, Judge Pal is a real pal's pal.
I would sell this entire board out for an autographed pic of the Chief Judge.
Matthew Kelly
He has admitted to a number of lapses in judgement.
Josiah Richardson
How can you be in the wrong when [spoile] YOU ARE THE ONE DEFINING WHAT IS RIGHT
Anthony Nguyen
There was the story where a bunch of dwarves kidnapped him because the city expanded the anti-mutant legislation to include them. He agreed that the law was wrong and that he'd push to change it.
Then he broke free and kicked their asses for assaulting and incarcerating a Judge.
Dylan Hernandez
I mean wasn't he wrong that one time he did the long walk because he was that wrong?
Isaiah Torres
>Kids crying about this sorta shit
>In MegOne
They've been mollycoddled for too long
Nathan Rodriguez
Someone oughtta storytime that.
Ryder Howard
Grayson Roberts
James Cooper
America was made in mind of Dredd being wrong, so no.
Owen Price
Cooper Ward
Joshua Mitchell
Chase Turner
That's one of the things that separates Dredd from your average hyper fascist oppressive dystopian supercops: he is still very much beholden to the law, a law that he doesn't get to make, only interpret and enforce. So you get things like Dredd refusing to at on McGruder's increasing insanity, or allowing perps to have lawyers, or taking care of judges who break the law even in the name of protecting the city. Of course, there are moments where Dredd himself bends or even goes against certain laws, but at the end of the day he's still a believer. Which doesn't make him any less of an asshole, of course.
Andrew Bennett
They should get Sylvester Stallone and make this the pilot for that Judge Dredd series in the works
Robert Phillips
Was this scripted by Wagner, or is it a 90s script by Ennis, Millar or Morrison?
Jason Harris
It was by Wagner for the first Judge Dredd Poster Prog.
However, there is a story by Ennis that's basically the same premise.
Jayden Taylor
Samuel Collins
Dylan Lopez
I'm not the biggest Simon Coleby fan, but I do love how much he has evolved since these days. Look at Jaegir and Royals and it's crazy to think it's the same guy.
Adam Bailey
>Series about hardcore policing
>Starting off with a discrimination story where the victims get punished for violence anyway
I'd love to see how that goes down
Joseph Butler
>Last panels
>Judge Dredd's First Day As Mod.jpg
Owen Young
Bentley Lopez
Okay I recognise Stallone. Who are the other dwarves?
Kayden James
>Those things don't grow on TREES, kid!
Ok, you know what? That got me. That got me good. Well played, Garth. You'll go places. Just not in 2000AD.
Lucas Morales
The thing with Dredd is, no matter haw bad he may seem, the world around him is worse.
Christian Lee
Why doesn't Dredd just put everyone in a cube?
Kayden Morales
What age do kids first get admitted into the Academy of Law?
Justin Russell
Dredd with children is great
David Kelly
Because it would be against THE LAW
Adrian Campbell
Five at most. Gotta get 'em when they're young. Special allowances can be made for older kids, but most drop out quickly enough.
Liam Harris
Connor Roberts
>half a billion?
What did he do?
Jeremiah Taylor
I remember a war with Sov-city at one point, and I think also a Judge Death incident where he had to choose between his world or someone else's
Adam Green
Blocs are effective enough for general population.
Daniel Perry
I seem to recall they incarcerated a person for I don't know how long and psychologically tortured him until he confessed to crimes he didn't commit because they got the apartment number wrong.
Josiah Nguyen
You know how, whenever they need a Russia stand in, they use Sov Blok 2?
They used to use Sov Blok 1
They still use Sov Blok 1 when they need a Zone
Jordan King
perfect
Ryan Rodriguez
You might be thinking of Brazil, were the secret police arrest the wrong man because of a typo caused by a fly landing in a printer.
I could believe that happened in Dredd
Colton Young
Damn, I wonder if the school visits are just a way to screen for promising recruits.
Evan Hill
The story with Judge Giant Jr as a cadet is probably one of my favourite all-time Dredd stories.
William Fisher
Child soldiers tend to become callous and/or sociopathic, so it makes sense I guess
Isaac Jones
A quick reminder on how to use child soldiers.
Xavier Green
This one isn't exactly that but it's the closest I can remember.
Parker Adams
Matthew Murphy
Luis Hernandez
I think it was a computer error? Or someone reading the numbers wrong. I know the dude was due to get an upstanding citizen award actually, but when they caught the error, his life was basically ruined. I can see you liking it if you have a particularly black sense of humor, but to me it was too much.
Chase White
Dredd was never wrong. It's the Laws that are unfair.
Christian Morales
Owen Adams
Wyatt Rodriguez
Ah! Now I remember which one you're talking about. Hang on a sec...
Jason James
Eh, I prefer the Wagner's take on this story. Since it's more of an actual, well, story. As in, things actually change during it and Dredd has to work to land an arrest, while here they just magically drop in his lap. I get that it's supposed to be comedy, but it isn't amazingly funny.
Nathan Cook
Here we go then.
Bentley Brown
I think they're both pretty weak, but yeah, Ennis is a lot more sit-commy about it.
Jeremiah Walker
Luis Ross
>Dreddman: Red Cop
>Alternate universe where Dredd is instead born in East-Meg One and becomes the best lawman on Earth
Gavin Perez
Nicholas Barnes
>You can't. That's the beauty of the security of the city act.
Boy, this really is a 2005 comic, huh?
Caleb Green
Cooper Watson
And now the real fun starts.
Isaac Ward
Daniel Flores
I mean, I think the very premise of Dredd starting investigation IN THE MIDDLE OF A CLASS as an object lesson is awesome and ridiculous enough to justify existence of this story. This is the kinda shit I love in comics, ideas that are too 'out there' to work in any other medium.
Luke Sullivan
Jason Smith
>ideas that are too 'out there' to work in any other medium.
Amen and all hail Tharg.
Thomas Davis
PD 314 is a real hero. And a real human be--wait, no.
Caleb Bell
And that's that.
There's probably a lesson here.
Jack Morris
Nuked East Meg 1 in the Apocalypse War. It's a classic, you should read it.
Isaac Fisher
There is another comic that follows this premise. A citizen is brought arrested for a crime, and an AI judge and AI lawyer convince him over the course of months to write a confession that he committed a crime he didn't do because he eventually breaks down.
Lucas Diaz
There was a story instead recently where Dredd got injured and while he was healing took classes at the academy and he had a big speech in front of like 50 kids visiting about how hard it is and what it means to be a Judge and every single one of them volunteerd
Leo Green
Sure, why not?
Aiden Perez
Julian Jones
Gabriel King
>Judge Chan
Oh didn't realize we were storytiming Shimura now
Jaxson Lee
Henry Ramirez
Pretty neat post, Tojo!
Leo Evans
I like Carroll in general. I fucking loved his Jennifer Blood run. But when he's doing Dredd, man... he just can't get that 70 year old clone dick out of his mouth sometimes.
Asher Johnson
Did he punch the liberal, Marxist college professor too?
Nicholas Williams
what are isocubes like? do people still experience time normally inside them?
David Hernandez
They vary quite a lot depending on the artist. You can see a variant of an iso cube right here: As for time, yes, criminals live out their sentences in real time. However, there is something called the Time Stretcher that forces their bodies to experience rapid aging, making them live out long stretches in just a handful of seconds. It's not something that's been used extensively but it exists.
Jose Clark
I mean, you can take is as a story that is sorta depressing that kids are so easily brainwashed in MCO and have so little hopes for future that being able to amount to ANYTHING sounds better to them. I mean, the pivotal point of the story is pointing out that the protesting parent doesn't even remember name of his son.
It's not that Judge Dredd is so inspiring, it's that life in MC1 is so pointless.
Asher Russell
I like that robot.
Kayden Bennett
I can see it. But to me it smacks too much of stuff like what Ennis used to write, only even more overblown. It's this weirdo cult of Dreddsonality that puts too much focus on his redeeming qualities, on his honesty and loyalty to the citizenry, as a way to make him come off as more of a sacrificed hero. It sounds like the writer justifying his and the judges' actions too much for my taste.
Still, hey, Bennet put Beeny into the Academy as a way of keeping her away from terrorist hands, and that worked out alright. So y'know, Dreddy has a point.
Henry Parker
Even in MC1 there's still the possibility to make a human connection or make a genuine effort with your life. It's just unlikely compared even today in the world (where most of us here on Sup Forums will almost certainly miss that). The story would have worked better if the kids had put their hands down. The whole last page is masturbatory.
Brandon Moore
I don't mind so much in situations like the panel you posted, where its a Judge arguing against anti-Judge slogans, because the Judges would need to justify themselves and Dredd especially considering all he's done
I'm not a fan of that being presented as some kind of objective truth.
Nathan Lewis
I extract Dredd from 2000AD/Megazine and compile it into yearly collected .CBR files for myself for reading convenience.
I zip it all up with winrar but change the extension to .cbr. I've been doing this for like 5 years now but all of a sudden when I do it my comic readers won't recognise it. Any idea what could be going wrong?
Anthony Bennett
So I haven't read much Dredd but I really liked the movie. I know Dredd is written and drawn by tons of people but were there any runs more like the movie or are they all mostly over the top wacky as in this thread.
I read some of the new IDW stuff and it was alright and the two issues of movie tie ins. Also in all incarnations of Dredd so over the top with wacky laws like no smoking or selling cigs? I liked the movie because it seemed super gritty and sort of realistic with an ends justify the means this is the only way to keep order in a post apocalyptic world. I also read all of Martial Law and that was wacky too but I still enjoyed it.
Jaxson Murphy
Yes, the Dredd comics have them along with bans on other things that can damage health like sugar.
Its important to remember that while Dredd himself is frequently placed in a heroic role the Judges are not intended to be a good thing, and Mega City 1 is an oppressive dystopia.
Camden Wood
While most of Dredd still goes for the wacky over the top crazy sci-fi crime, most modern Dredd stories written by John Wagner also have a strong procedural cop drama feel to them, with slightly more low key (or at least understandable) crimes.
If you're looking for that, I'd recommend checking out arcs like The Pit, Total War, Tour of Duty and most Dredd stories past the Origins arc.
Adrian Clark
Interesting. I am surprised the movie went over so well with the comic fans if it wasn't much like the comics. I have always liked ends justifying the means characters in fiction which is why I liked the idea of Judges but in the movie they seem more like hardened cops who have to be hard to keep the world going like However from the rest of the stories I have read like all of the other stories that have been posted in this thread they just seem like bullies who aren't really helping and just do what they do for kicks. Well other than Dredd who was bred to do this without question.
Jose Wood
Get Judge user to post "Blindsided". It came out like a year before the movie and inswear to god it's so fucking similar in a bunch of ways. It's one of my favorite stories.
Isaiah Murphy
Thing about the Dredd movie is that despite the more low-key setting, it absolutely nailed the core of its two main characters. Dredd in the comics is absolutely an inhuman hardass with callous, mechanical contempt for criminals, who can and will go through an entire city block like a chainsaw through butter if necessary. But like in the movie, he's not a complete automaton, and is able to bend the law on occasion if it's for the sake of the city.
As for the bullying thing, remember that you're reading a very small section of a comic that's been going on since 1977. There are more than enough stories about the judges fighting back city-destroying threats. But because the comic has a lot more space to develop its universe, it also shows that the judges' brand of instant justice, while working wonders for the most heinous of crimes, also crushes nearly all manner of individual liberties. The main ambiguity at the heart of the judges' iron grip over the city is that it's necessary to keep humanity alive, but it has little regard for whether that life is worth living. Is the survival of the human race worth the alienation, incarceration and often downright murder of nearly every last of its members?
It's a question that underlines the entire setting of Judge Dredd, and no writer, not even Wagner himself, has tried to give it a definite answer. Because there really isn't one.
Connor Collins
Welp!
Lincoln Smith
That's the thing about Dredd comics, they encompass every genre and tone imaginable. You really have no idea what you're getting next week.
It could be a cartoony whacky over the top comedy, a political satire, a psychedelic paranormal trip, a pop culture parody, a high tech space romp, a post apocalyptic trip into the desert wastelands, a gritty grim realistic and depressing story that paints the Judges as evil fascist dictators that has you thinking "fuck you Dredd you piece of shit" or even a story a week after that could paint them as great heroes of justice that has you thinking "Fuck yes Dredd youre awesome"
There really is nothing like it in terms of sheer variety and range of its stories.