Does anyone else think the Marvel films need more testosterone?

Does anyone else think the Marvel films need more testosterone?
I think the Marvel films are fine , but imagine if the heroes were more masculine and serious like Batfleck or Cavil Superman.
The Marvel heroes make too many jokes and act effiminately of late.

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I still don't understand how snyder managed to force the 300 and the dceu guys into working out on his gyms build on set, most good directors can't even stop their actors from drinking or doing coke and yet snyder had ben actually working out with the crew

It could just come down to how much time they have preproduction too.

>Does anyone else think the Marvel films need more testosterone?
Why? Is all cgi now

>need more testosterone
How long do memes last? I'm itching for this one to die already

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As long as it takes for the masses to realise that excess testosterone gets broken down into oestrogen.

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Why do you need to work out when you have super strength

Not even a gym rat, but wouldn't working out improve your lifting efficiency when you do have to use super strength?

Same with super speed. It's useless if you get winded after running for five minutes.

It would be useful only if they were working out at a supergym. Otherwise they're doing the equivalent of office paperwork.

Tetosterone is evil user. Marvel loves their weak looking bitchy passive agressive "heroes". At best you will get to see Cap, Thor and T'challa shirtless.

Say whatever you want of the DCEU. Seeing Bruce doing this shit felt like actual anger.

That's a plot point in one of the She-Hulk runs. She exercises as Jen Walters and becomes stronger as She-Hulk as a result.

Which character are you thinking of, exactly?

Even Superman likes to work out. It's relaxing.

>effiminately

I know it's bait and all, but couldn't you even be bothered to make an attempt?

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It's probably for the same reason as everyone else - just to stay in shape and look good.

Look at Sentry, for instance. Yeah when he was a fat alcoholic, he was one of earth's strongest heroes, but naturally he wanted to look like one of earth's strongest heroes too.

Didn't they do that in the Incredibles? When Mr. Incredible works out at a train yard?

>What is Cap, Thor, Bucky, Black Panther, etc
Sorry they didn't have a pointless training montage

It's been a while since I saw that, but that would be a good example. It's pretty common in comics themselves.

Well, they do are pretty effeminate. Specially in the comics.

It makes me wonder if there is any ulterior motive in not displaying masculinity at all in Marvel.

Eye candy? None of them really comes off as masculine, their behavoiur and sense of humour is very femenine.

How the fuck do any of them act effeminate? I doubt I'm going to get a good answer here

OP is either gay,shit posting,or a woman

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Bull. Shit. You sound like you have repressed homosexuality you need to work out

Remember when Cap and Banner where talking about Widow and Cap giggled like a girl and told Banner that he had been there?

Or how Thor acted around Valkyre? Or T'Challa being a little bitch in all his fights agaisn't Killmonger?

Or all the quips trying to dismantle scenes of tension or any sort of violence, because conflict hurts my feefees!

Marvel is too weak. The last time we saw actual conflict was in WS and CW.

Something tells me OP likes to call people who disagree with him soyboys.

I have no repressed homosexuality. I am bisexual and love my men manly. But Marvel decided to turn them into well... pic related.

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You had me until
>Batfleck
I agree they don't take themselves serious enough, but BvS was not good.

Remember when Batman cried like a bitch when heard his mom's name? Or when he made a quip about "something's definitely broken" after Clark tossed him? Or hey how about that awkward ass, almost homosexual, "I don't not....not like you" moment with Superman?

Keep reaching

>Implying Batfleck didn't had the best fight scenes in any cape movie so far

I bet you love the fight scenes from DKR, faggot.

>responding to such obvious bait instead of flooding the thread with marvel homolust as god intended

Batfleck only had the one good fight scene, but damn if it wasn't the best capeshit fight scene I've seen.

Yeah, but he did this: youtube.com/watch?v=XEaX_uHHFUA

That shit exudes tetosterone. Hell, Wonder Woman had more manliness than any other movie in the MCU that isn't related to Captain America.

Hell, Superman vs Zod has been better than all the fights of the MCU so far.

Superman's strength doesn't even come from his muscles. It's not physically possible for his strength TO come from his muscles. Not unless under his skin there are portals to a dimension where millions of tons of muscle mass is being kept hidden.

All those quips from Justice League came from Whedon rewrites.
The mother thing in BvS was legitimate emotional drama as Batman relived his past.

Naw.
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And yet he works out and his muscles get bigger when he does (gym at the core of the planet). He likes it, it feels good and you should work out too, user.

>and his muscles get bigger when he does

Citation needed.

>cherrypicking
Hm, i can do this too

Remember in BvS where Supes was giggling around Lois and they were fucking around in the bathtub?

Or how about Flash watching certified soyboy shows like Rick and Morty on his huge computer. Flash's whole character is a giant estrogen pill.

How about the fact that Marvel only is making a movie based around its biggest female character after a lot of pressure? Whereas DC not only made a WW movie, but milked the whole stronk womyn angle to fucking death? Yeah, really feel like a chad when I see Steve Trevors' cuck sissy boygina getting penetrated by the superior gender?

And Batman? Yeah, real masculine shit there to stop attacking a potential huge alien threat just because he said your mom's name? I know when I go to the gym and I'm swapping protein shakes woth my high test bros we're also crying over our dead moms. Real manly. I'll even throw in cyborg's daddy issues because, you know, being an emo faggot and crying and moaning and being constantly driven by dead parents is manly.

Fuck off you trisomy x pimply cuck. Only reply to me after you've seen a woman's vagina

Only time Cap was allowed to be manly... the MCU needs more shit like this.

Seriously op, of all the things to pick up. Anyway, they can already lift trucks and shit, better train stamina and learn some martial art like Cap and Tony do. Also snyder is fascinated by men's physique that should be obvious since 300. This is more like his fetish since batfleck's already bulked, has a comfy armor and could've just put kryptonite bullets in those machine guns, but no he wants to penetrate superman with his spear.

>Remember in BvS where Supes was giggling around Lois and they were fucking around in the bathtub?

He didn't giggle. She did, he made her giggle, because that is what men are supposed to do.

>Or how about Flash watching certified soyboy shows like Rick and Morty on his huge computer. Flash's whole character is a giant estrogen pill.

And yet he grew up and started fighting back. He is well on his way to become a man. The MCU characters are grown men, acting like little boys or women.

>How about the fact that Marvel only is making a movie based around its biggest female character after a lot of pressure? Whereas DC not only made a WW movie, but milked the whole stronk womyn angle to fucking death? Yeah, really feel like a chad when I see Steve Trevors' cuck sissy boygina getting penetrated by the superior gender?

A man has no fear nor insecurity for the success of his woman. If anything, he feels pride and desire when he makes that which even she herself thought it was impossible. Steve never felt undermined by Diana, because he knows he is worth a lot and his duty to his country is also important, a good male will fullfil that duty even in the face of death, which he did.

There is no reason to be mad at DC making a WW movie. It was natural to make it, she IS part of the trinity and one of the greatest heroes that has ever lived.

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yeah that's from Slott's run and it's good. I also liked when Wally had to eat a shit ton of food all the time because of the effect being the Flash had on his metabolism

At this point I'm not even mad at OP. It's the rest of you idiots that keep taking bait that need to be gassed.

why don't you just go watch gay porn you little gay boy

>And Batman?

Is a mentally unstable individual that despite his paranoia (which almost lead him into becoming a villain) recognized his mistake and the death of the being he thought was evil, actually hunts him down. He is very masculine in embracing the fact that he needs help, he needs his tribe to survive things that he can't handle himself, he needs people to remind him that he is wrong and that is great. The only character that is similar to him, is Bucky Barnes but he has the excuse of being brain washed and even then, he regrets everything and tries to be a better person. Those are admirable characteristics in anyone.

>I'll even throw in cyborg's daddy issues because, you know, being an emo faggot and crying and moaning and being constantly driven by dead parents is manly.

Read above. He is like both, Batman and Flash. Very young and traumatized by event that would scar anyone. He still fights for what is right. And it seems he is well in his way into letting go of some of his insecurities and passive agressiveness, but it's ok, he is still young.

Masculinity is not toxic nor does it involves being a lone ranger. Do not run away from it, embrace it.

For Truth, for Justice and Freedom.

>Fuck off you trisomy x pimply cuck. Only reply to me after you've seen a woman's vagina

Aaahhh... I see what kind of person you are. Don't worry, you still can grow up and become a man.

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A shame this sort of stuff is only allowed on Cap and BP movies.

Those videos are from a Captain America movie. It's also a movie where Black Panther expresses interest in seeing his body guard and Black Widow in a cat fight because it would be hot, sounds pretty masculine to me.

Exactly. A shame this is only allowed on Cap movies. You need to reread what was posted.

> A shame this sort of stuff is only allowed on Cap and BP movies.

>masculine masculine masculine
ITT insecure horseshit from men who read capeshit lol

>Implying they actually read capeshit and don't just watch all the latest ebin capeshit blockbusters to make memes about them

>hold on lemme put down this 80lb camera i've been carrying for several hours
>now what was that about declining my mandate for working out?

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I have noticed that people like Joss Whedon, you know, male feminists and all that jazz, tend to be secret abusers. Wouldn't be surprissed if the writer of BP was one too.

The Flash in JL is the textbook definition of a special snowflake soyboy, that alone takes all the testosterone away from the DCEU.

>Thor fights Surtur and his minions

Doesn't really have that much weight to the punches. Superman still is the master of huge cape fights.

That fight is good. A shame they almost all happen on hallways.

To be fair, Cap and BP are more of brute strength characters than Tony, Scott or Peter.

>Peter

Peter should be more about strength considering the stuff he does in the books.

I assume you mean finesse as opposed to just punching things, because even baby Homecoming Peter is worlds above Cap in muscle power.

>he didn't giggle
maybe not, but he looked like the biggest faggot ever, in his nerdy shitty glasses holding a fucking bouquet of flowers. honestly makes him even more of a soyfriend

>yet he grew up and started fighting back
lmao really? did we watch the same movie? flash's existence is to be a literal estrogen pill. he's a weak man subservient to psychopaths like batman and watches high estrogen TV shows. people who browse Sup Forums or watch rick and morty are supposed to sympathize with him. pathetic that you're standing up for him, too

>all this bullshit
steve trevors getting pegged by a jewish diana probably got your 4 inch bad smelling rocks off, so whatever dude

>one of the greatest heroes that has ever lived
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oh, you're serious?
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>mentally unstable individual
stopped reading there. you think mental instability and CUHRAYZEE is manly? you've got a few things to learn about the world, my underage aspiring school shooter

>he still fights for what is right, despite being young and traumatized
this describes literally all heroes in some way or form, even marvel's. cyborg in JL made himself unique by being even more of a crybaby faggot than most

>masculinity is not toxic and isn't being a lone ranger
of course
>do not run away from it, embrace it
then why do so many of the dcuck heroes struggle with this?

>i see what kind of a person you are
And I know what kind of person you are. Fuck off my board.

Peter is about the opposite of strength. He's always holding back and relies on his agility and webbing more than his strength. Sadly his genius is the least used skill he has.

When he does use his raw strength is when it's the most intimidating.

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So you just like things that make loud booms, good to know

And their Aquaman is the embodiment of a overcompensating faggot. Comic Arthur isn't that try hard

Is more about weight in the punches and special effect that give power to said punches.

But a boom is nice to hear, you need to make the punch look like it can actual shatter the world. So far, Marvel has been unable to display such a thing, but Snyder did it in a single movie. It's quite impressive, a shame he did not focused as much on the script.

>Peter is about the opposite of strength.
>When he does use his raw strength is when it's the most intimidating.

Does any of this doesn't sound contradictory to you?

>Fuck off my board

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>potential huge alien

Superman is not a threat in any way whatsoever, Luthor.

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Holy fuck backpedal harder.

>Does anyone else think the Marvel films need more testosterone?
marvel soyboys = making billions
D"Chads" = making flops

so who is "the real man" here in this situation?

That wasn't the case in the Batman vs Superman fight though, which was weak as fuck and visually lacked creativity.

>bp
I don't think those guys are male feminists

The girls that had worked with Zack love him.

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>allowed to be manly
So to be manly, you need to beat up other people? So, a man is just a brute?

>to be secret abusers
What? I thought he cheated on his wife. That's no abuse.

I disagree. The fights of Batman felt like his punches could actually shatter you (even getting pushed by Supes felt like he was about to get his back destroyed).

Even Diana pushing Bruce had more expression than any other movie that isn't a Cap movie.

Kinda like seeing Manga fights vs western comics fights.

Yeah seeing Bruce tossing Clark through walls over and over again was really compelling, user. And you want to talk about weight? That retarded ass grapple gun toss was pathetic. It was the floaty, unnatural thing I've seen in capeshit

BvS was criticized for just being that so no. The age of testosterone filled men is dead.

Isn't the flash cheating and taking energy from some extradimensional space? How does his metabolism tie into that?

id actually prefer MCU if it just straight animated cgi cartoons (keep the same actors to do voice over work)

It does have more energy into the fight than anything seen so far in the MCU.

>I constantly have to keep diverting the conversation back to the MCU to make it appear less shit
Pathetic

Sexual Harrasment is type of abuse depending on which jurisdiction you are.

Not him, but it's about the shock of the reveal; like if you knew a goofy dog that would run up for pats to the head or belly rubs, it'd do that every day and you'd get used to letting it lick your face and sometimes knock you over. Then one day you see the same friendly dog tear into someone's arm, like you can see it's face covered in blood and just barely make out bones cracking from how hard this thing is biting. And deep down you realize how much you lucked out every day that you weren't the one getting mauled, how close you let it get to your throat which it could have ripped open whenever.

An opinion is just that. An opinion.

No need to get mad or sad because people have different taste. You really need to grow up.

>You need to grow up
Funny coming from the guy who indulges in stupid companywar nonsense

That camera looks like a W40K weapon.

>Does anyone else think the Marvel films need more testosterone?

>Cap
>Thor
>Bucky
>T'Challa

Even Paul Rudd and Benadryl Cabbagepatch got in shape to play heroes that aren't even really fighters

This scene is no overrated. There's so much wrong with it.
>Bullets can't penetrate his armor but knives do
>Batman kills people when this is suppose to be after his reformation
>Batman kicks the guy who was hanging towards the guy with the grenade, which somehow unhooks him from the rope and sends him flying
>Everything feels weightless and none of the hits have impact

I'd like to point out he gets stabbed in a likely area where he doesn't have kevlar.

The final fight of Civil War blows the Batman vs Superman fight out of the fucking water.
>The conflict between Iron Man and Captain America had been built up in previous films
>Their motives for fighting each other actually make sense unlike BvS
>Is a fight between characters who have all received proper development and we actually give a fuck about
>Fight is more than just awkward punches and throws, has inventive use of the characters move sets and equipment
>Hand to hand combat is extremely well done and all the hits have proper impact
>Doesn't pussy out with "MARTHA" moment. Gives a proper fight that has a victor

How would Superman work out?
Stick a weight bar between a couple of black holes?

What was stopping them from shooting him there? The dude who got stabbed through the shoulder when the grappling hook got off plenty of shots with his rifle before Batman got to chance to attack him.

You are a fucking moron, you can cut kevlar. And the bullets cant penetrate PARTS of the suit, mostly the cowl.

When shooting to kill, thugs don't aim for the shoulder, user. Most aim for the torso given the size of the target, and head if close enough. In both cases Batman has both heavily armored, and its strongest around the logo, hence its function in the design. Its a big target basically saying "Shoot Me!"

It's not a "thug", those are the mercenaries that killed the rebels at the start of the movie.

user they're fucking hired goons regardless who know jack shit about Batman and his equipment. They're going to shoot him in the damn chest/head like every other person would. Stop being obtuse