>Square made it their mission to push Final Fantasy XV as their biggest masterpiece since Final Fantasy VII >Tabata said he wants this game to make other games panic because of how great it will be >Game is a solid 8/10. B+
This game failed. Square/Tabata was on a mission for this to be their biggest game since FF7 (they put all their eggs into this game by making a movie, an anime, a fucking car etc..) and it massively backfired. It's not even in the top 5 best Final Fantasy games. If Tabata and Square didn't over hype the shit out of it and claim this game was God's gift to gaming then the backlash wouldn't have been so bad. They set themselves up.
Now if the game had kept Nomura's vision completely intact, then Tabata would be getting so much praise right now. Nomura's vision was amazing but alas Tabata had to change everything when there was literally no reason to. If Nomura's original vision was bought to light, then the game would be getting the critical acclaim Square had wanted.
>wasting his time trying to convince people that the game is bad
Damn. Sup Forums really is pathetic.
Logan Fisher
It is bad. OP is just telling the truth.
Camden Green
Give up, you lost.
Being a good loser is also a virtue.
Gabriel Flores
But it is bad. Name one thing OP got wrong
Leo Ramirez
The game is not bad if you prefer the company of men.
Chase Martinez
Actually you lost because this game isn't a masterpiece you XV fanboys were claiming it would be. Truth hurts don't it
Jason Cruz
The game is not bad, it's really good, not a master piece, but it's good. But for Square as a company it's a pyrrhic victory. The cost was too great to make this game succesful from a business perspective.
In the end, it was a failure.
Dylan Ortiz
In what world do you live in where a 86 metacritic represents a bad game? gtfo
William Baker
I never once claimed it would be a masterpiece.
Actually, all I wanted was another FFXII, and by the looks of it, I got one.
Leo Perez
you gtfo in a world where a shit game like Infinite and MGSV gets a 93 XV is sad
Jace Lopez
>MGSV >shit game
Yeah ok buddy.
Ryder Taylor
it looks average at best. There will never be a final fantasy that can be considered a masterpiece. They just lost it completely more than 16 years back when their games were still fun.
Nathan Ross
>le MGSV isnt wasted potential Face it, only the gameplay was amazing everything else was trash to level design, music and story a solid 6
Owen Hughes
>wasting his time trying to convince people that the game is not bad
damn, this user is really pathethic
Colton Wilson
Sup Forums shitting on a game pretty much guarantees it'll be good. I'll get this game now.
Ayden Rodriguez
If it really is a B+ game I'll be shocked, considering how hideous it looks and all the QTE gameplay that's been shown lately
Jason Morgan
Probably hate's Japanese games for whatever reason
Hudson Cruz
FF12 is 4 times as long as this game with more replayability and better writing/characters/story.
Landon Collins
epic and here I am on this korean website
Tyler Price
It's what Sup Forums does. They've been at it for months and they'll be at it for months still. I don't know what the big raging hard on people here have against it but it changes nothing. Just go enjoy it.
Evan Sullivan
Nobody remembers that shit.
Joshua King
>MGSV >shit game >Face it, only the gameplay was amazing
I'm dying here.
Hudson Howard
FF 13 metacritic score is 83. That's means FF 15 is only slightly better than FF 13. That is nothing to be proud about . Especially when the game was billed as the savior of gaming in Japan
Aaron Long
prove me wrong DMC4 had amazing gameplay and that game was mediocre
Jeremiah Carter
I would like to point out that Final Fantasy XIII was a dumpster fire and mediocre is the best we could ask for. We all know square has been sitting on their hands for years just acquiring properties and releasing mobile trash. I'm so starved for square I'm just glad it even came out. It's bad enough I've been waiting 10 years for kingdom hearts 3
Landon Johnson
People think Sup Forums hates this game, heh. Japan actually hates the game.
Luis Torres
It's not "bad" it's meh as fuck with nothing to do.
Grayson Butler
FF12 got 92 on metacritic. FFXV with cherry picked reviewers got 86.
Wait until the other sites and publications review it. It'll sit at 84
Jose Reyes
But MGSV was actually shit Kojima rused us
Jack Campbell
>FFXV actually turns out to be a huge success >They sell 10 million copies and then some >FF because an action oriented combat series now Calling it now. And it will be an improvement too.
Austin Peterson
Until when are we pretending to hate FFXV, lads? I can't support it anymore.
Nathan Williams
>tabata will be the one directing games from now on Kill me
Owen Hughes
ofc. Japan hates sausage games.
Carson Cooper
Having played the game, I can say it's official:
Stella >>>>>>> Luna
What I don't understand is why Tabata said Luna was playable when it wasn't true. Did I miss some interview or something?
Also, I liked that little detail before the final fight against Ardyn about taking one of the photos you have taken during all the journey so by the time they are in the afterlife Noctis shows Luna a photo of Gladio's with a bufoon face or Cidney's cleaveage depending on the photo you select.
To make things even more hilariously awkward, that is.
Mason Mitchell
8/10 is pretty disappointing for a FF game, and unfortunately reinforces my belief that we'll probably never see another truly great game in the franchise.
Having said that, 8/10 is hardly a failure. Don't know why we have to be drama queens about it.
Benjamin Powell
>>Game is a solid 8/10. B+ 8/10 isn't a B+, it's a B-.
Carter Young
>Square, Tabata and XV fanboys claim this game will be a masterpiece >It's not >Shitposters claim this game will be uttershit >It's not
Can we all agree that NOBODY won this fight?
Kevin Perry
Rate the first half of the game and the second half separately, Sup Forums
Christian Smith
Can someone explain me what is Final Fantasy, in detail?
Henry Sanchez
7/10 4/10 Combat removes one point from the first half though
Sebastian Russell
I think for most people here 8/10 is utter shit. How it seems anyways.
Gavin Brooks
It's a B, dumbass. Neither - or +.
Nathaniel Mitchell
>ten years in development >8gb day one patch for bug fixes square enix really is the worst development company in video game history
Lincoln Cooper
This game not being a 10/10 will never change the fact that Final Fantasy is one of the most influential game series of all time and one of my personal favorite examples that I give every time somebody tries to claim video games aren't art.
You might have won this battle but the war has lasted longer than your own life, because who are you? probably some underage redditor lol, this series is probably older than your entire family.
You could go to gamefaqs and get your answer instead of shitting up Sup Forums with your TORtanic faggotry. now I've wasted enough time on you junior. time to report and hide this thread.
Alexander Gutierrez
i would say its a very average game,not really bad but after 10 years,intense marketing and producers and develops calling it a masterpiece we had natural expectations and the game just did not live up to them not even close 2 it,the game had 2 be excellent not just average,if i want average games i would get shit like dragon ball fusions/xenoverse cuz at least i would be having fun with the characters and jokes i know,FFXV simply doesnt justify being bought
Jayden Cook
After 10 years in the making of the biggest and most ambitious largest budget FF games of all times, S.E. most anticipated release in history, we get a solid meh/10. The game is not bad. The game is not great. Just meh. Just like FF13, some people may love it, some may hate it, but the masses are unimpressed. Why is Sup Forums so lukewarm with this release?
Isaiah Wright
Faggottesting
Angel Perry
It's not bad, but he's right.
It failed as a successor to VII
Jackson Sullivan
When are they going to patch in hard mode?
Luke Sanchez
Sounds kind of like FFXII all over again what with the change of direction in the middle of development.
Logan Wright
final fantasy hasnt been influencial since 10
5 mainline and a trillion spin offs later the brand is basically ruined
Noah Cox
Yeah but they do have good directors, it's sad that SE tends to shit on them.
Austin Hill
FF15 will be a resounding wet fart that smells bad temporarily but eventually disappears.
The industry in general over there seems to be headed towards action/musou gameplay as they provide greater "Spectacles" for the viewer to enjoy while occasionally mashing X.
Josiah Sullivan
So shouldn't Sup Forums be blowing up about FFXV right now, with the reviews coming out
Charles Reed
Fuck off siliconera.
Tyler Lopez
Except FF12 still turned out to be the fourth best FF.
Asher Kelly
They really shouldve just moved Versus to the PS4 instead of remaking it.
Yeah graphically itd be a gen behind but whatever.
Samuel Hughes
Clearly people do. One of the best Final Fantasys. Fans don't like it because there's no muh romantic subplot and "the game plays itself". It's a much more grounded game than most FFs. If fans had their way we'd be playing Final Fantasy VII-5 by now.
Sebastian Green
Someone tell me this is a joke..
Dominic Reyes
Debatable, but some people really did like it. The same thing will probably happen to this game. Heck, some people even put FFXIII as one of their favorite FF games despite most people disliking it.
Liam Bennett
*best
Leo Torres
In the new update it says you can now warp outside of battle Has anyone tried this out and seen if it's true?
Chase Walker
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Cooper James
Ask for some paw.
Ian Anderson
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Jayden Russell
Yeah it works, i hope they tested it properly otherwise you can probably easiyl get out of bounds
Carson Williams
Nope. Thats really what happens. The second half of this game is a rushed joke.
Hunter Sanchez
it's the game that invented jrpg
Daniel Diaz
What a fucking waste of my time.
Josiah Jenkins
But there's nothing wrong with a strong 8. That's far better than any recent FF outings, so compared to the most recent games, I'd say they accomplished their mission.
Gabriel Martinez
I liked XII, though. It's probably my favorite of the 3D FFs. My only real beef with it was the story ended too abruptly. It was like if FF9 ended when the queen died.
Levi Torres
This is why I truly hate Tabata. He is nothing more than a lying piece of shit
>Don't worry Versus fans. I will keep Nomura's vision intact >"lol jk changing up the game how I want it"
>I delayed the game 2 months so there will not be a huge day one patch >"Haha just joking. Not only will you have a huge 7GB patch but you will have a second 8GB patch too!"
>Luna will be a guest party member >"Nope lol"
>The game story is lengthy and will take 50 hours to complete >"holy shit you fags keep believing me? that shit is actually 20 hours"
>You do not have to watch the Kingsglaive movie or the Brotherhood anime in order to understand the story or characters >"oh my god you dumbfucks keep believing me! haha"
Fuck that asshole
Samuel Lee
Alright, that's it. I'm sick of these fucking "final fantasy fans" on here trying to tell the rest of us how to behave on a fucking VIDEO GAMES SUB. Not a day goes by I don't see one of these elitist fucks whining about "waaahhhhh, final fantasy used to be gooooood. waaaaahhh", and I'm sick of it. Shit sucks and you know it. Name one old final fantasy game that was worth anything. It was worthless crap and you know it.
Colton Perez
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Lucas Scott
>SUB
Jack Cox
did FFXV-kun kill himself yet?
Xavier Parker
Wow people weren't lying after all..
John Perry
fucking sweet I know it's not really a big deal but it was the coolest idea for me and I'm glad they actually did it
Ian Sanders
final fantasy is dead
Christopher Flores
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Kevin Rodriguez
>they ruined the music in 1.02
for what purpose
Jace Sanchez
I don't see what the big deal is. Nomura had his vision for the game, and when he stepped aside as director it became Tabata's game to make as he saw fit. He probably kept what parts he did of Nomura's design out of respect for the guy; he could have very easily just scrapped everything and started over from scratch to make whatever game he wanted right from day 1.
Kevin Watson
What'd they do?
Ayden Adams
Same here, at least now i won't have to bunnyhop everywhere, it drains a lot of MP though i can only warp 5-6 times for now
Isaiah Russell
>he could have very easily just scrapped everything and started over from scratch to make whatever game he wanted right from day 1. That's literally what he did
Justin Sullivan
wow even v has a thread about ff15
didnt read the thread so far just wanted tos ay the game rocks
i like everything.
you dont even need to drive the car it is full auto if you want
even so the battle can be set to auto and the blocking can set to auto
He kept the characters and the same basic outline of a group of bros on a road trip. He likely kept those core aspects out of respect to Nomura. It wasn't his job to make Nomura's game, it was his job to make his game.
Samuel Hernandez
>Final Fantasy is one of the most influential game series of all time
Was/has been.
It no longer is, not by a long fucking stretch.
7 was a mistake and everything started REALLY going south after 9
Benjamin White
So what do you actually have to do in the game?
Andrew Foster
>tfw just reached Chapter 9
Did they just give up?
Dylan Allen
Yeah, it would have been better if XV was another game and others characters, not a parody of versus XIII, Tabata and Square Enix are literally shitting on Nomura.
Connor Walker
walking around
sideseeing in citys
some sidequest
and the story is really cool, i like th eguys even so they look like a boy band. Its like having friends.
William Ward
Why would this sell 10 million copies? No Japanese game sells that much anymore unless it's a Nintendo published/developed title.
John Moore
It went back up with XI, but then they failed to make a great game afterwards, or at least any that I could enjoy as much as the previous entries.
Nolan Rodriguez
There's just something wrong with everything past chapter 7-8 is just wrong, i don't get why most reviewers didn't criticise it harder, especially fucking Tenebrea or characters dissapearing and showing up again as if nothing happened