EU when?

EU when?

İnşallah never

I feel like no matter what he does I'll still say that Erdogan wants them to ascend

if he can get that done he'll be remembered for the early economic boom, bringing religious people into democratic politics, and bringing the country into the eu, it would be an unassailable legacy no matter how shitty he really was

5-10 years

It's unstoppable. German economists have been fantasizing about combining the Turk-German population pyramids for a decade now.

When Erdogan gets overthrown

If Erdogan actually wanted it he wouldn't have gone full dictator

He's like Putin, he only cares about himself.

ugh please no

no idea why turks thought they'd ever be allowed in the EU, no one likes them.
There have been negotiations for the past 50 years or something, think what the EU is trying to do is honorary let them in but not grant them any immigration rights so they can officially use Turkey as a dumpster for all the unwated, like Muslims, Albos and others.

kek he's never getting turkey into the EU
he wants to reintroduce the death penalty in Turkey for one and that alone excludes you from EU membership

Turks should have a system from the Atatürk era telling them to kill off guys like Erdogan.

Make Istanbul Constantinople again and it might be a topic of discussion. Otherwise, fuggedaboutit

The day Tukey joins the EU is the day it collapses. That is of course assuming Europeans actually care about the values they claim to espouse. Like freedom of speech, freedom of the press, liberté, égalité, fraternité etc.

Can we not?

Atatürk was a good guy but he was the actual dictator to be honest.
He had unnecessary reforms and movements for example , he made it mandatory to wear hats for men ( hats like those fedoras and others which were popular in 1930s ) and he actually even hanged many that didn't wear the damn hats.

desu I don't think muslim countries can be governed without some form of dictatorship, or else you're gonna go full syria mode.

The most fervent supporter of turkish EU membership is leaving, so thats one problem solved.

eu a shit

k*mal was the biggest westernboo there ever was. He literally told his own civilization to fuck off and was an Anglo bootlicker. Wish Enver didn't die so Turkey would be like his vision

He didn't tell his own civilization to fuck off, he only told it to modernize. Turkey would have been a natural part of Europe and the EU if it didn't fuck around.

after wwiii?

Telling the imams to recitate in turkish and not arabish is not the way you tell your civilisation to fuck off

they've never had a chance of getting in
even more so now that ergodan is making it a dictatorship

or maybe it's a bargaining chip, so when he goes to the table and he just takes the gun away from his country's head turkey doesn't actually have to give up that much

Idk i'm probably the only person in the world who believes this

>there are many cultures, but only one civilization, the european one.

K*mal after visiting europe

He forbid teaching anything about the Ottoman emprie in schools, banned mosques from calling to prayers, punished women for wearing just the hjiab, and seeked alliances with the west which fucked them over instead of the former Ottoman subjects which were happy and willing to work with Turkey

no like theres certain requirements that you have to meet to join and Turkey has never been close to joining
it was only the brexiters that made out they were joining

stop giving them redpill overdose

>banned mosques from calling to prayers
He recognized the malign influence.
>punished women for wearing just the hjiab
Saw the backwardness.
>and seeked alliances with the west which fucked them over instead of the former Ottoman subjects which were happy and willing to work with Turkey
Tried to make Turkey a great power in the world.

>Tried to make Turkey a great power in the world.

Fuck off back to /balt/ please

Funny because of K*mals legacy the arabs hate us because they think we betrayed them by turning out eyes towards the west and the west doesn't think we are western and treats us like a completely foreign country. We are literally fucked thanks to this alcoholic retard with a raging boner for europe

only thing he did was being a ruthless dictator and living off people's taxes.

meanwhile erdoğan quadrupled turkeys entire GDP in just 12 years.

all of you western cuckolds hate turks anyway. no wonder you can't wait to praise the homosexual jewish dictator and calling a guy who actually did some good stuff a dictator .DD

Not really, he knew his shit. Just he was stuck with 700AD people who didn't figure out how to be a great nation.

Never.

Never

This is fuckin glorious.

more like turan union when

>There have been negotiations for the past 50 years or something
the first negotiations didn't last long, both groupswere uninterested
this current meme is akp's doing and it was started in 2003. they were using it as a political fulcrum to gain the support of lefties and kurds

>kemal was pro-west
>Today the Soviet Union is a friend and an ally. We need this friendship. However, no one can know what will happen tomorrow. Just like the Ottoman and Austro-Hungarian Empires it may tear itself apart or shrink in size. Those peoples that it holds so tightly in its grip may one day slip away. The world may see a new balance of power. It is then that Turkey must know what to do. Ally Soviets have under their control our brothers with whom we share language, beliefs and roots. We must be prepared to embrace them. Being ready does not mean that we will sit quietly and wait. We must get ready. How does a people get prepared for such an endeavor? By strengthening the natural bridges that exist between us. Language is a bridge... Religion is a bridge... History is a bridge... We must delve into our roots and reconstruct what history has divided. We can't wait for them to approach us. We must reach out to them. -Mustafa Kemal Atatürk, Speech at Çankaya Pavilion (29 October 1933)
stupid cermen nigger
atatürk was not pro-west. he was pro-türk and he disliked large imperialistic european powers like italy, germany, britain and france
he seemed to like the united states though that was before united states became what it is today

>informative response about Turkey from a German flag
hate that this has become the norm

Stop voting Erdogan

This is the kind of brainwashing we go through everyday in school. Look at this guy and see how damaged and deluded he is.

We are working on a solution.

well, you can always escape to Germany.

>he was pro-türk
>literally forbids turks to learn about their actual heritage and instead teaches them that THEY WUZ ROMANS

Your Anglo spy died a pathetic death while drinking all day and being a pathetic excuse of a man living off taxes

I dont even like him but i voted for his presidency just to piss of kamal fags :DD

Do you want us to become a part of EU while Everyone is waiting for the collapse of European Union.

>escape
sorry i don't follow greek traditions

what? when?

>he studied in public school and not a private school with leftie "white turks" with proper curriculums and education
laughing at your life poorfag

Emre
You will BE the collapse.

Look up the education progams after he gained power. Forbid teaching about Ottomans, Seljuks, Uighurs, and other turkic tribes and instead made people believe that Turks were romans. Luckily this bastard died early enough for actual competent historians to fix his retarded system

>Implying kamal brainwashing doesnt happen in private schools

Also those ''''''''''''white''''''''''''' '''''''''''''''''''''turks''''''''''''''''''''' tend to be more pro-kamal than anyone.

>German flag

The only country that wants you in the EU is Germany.

hahaha very funny isn't it? XDDDD I mean there are more than 1 million turks in Germany no way one of them would actually post on Sup Forums right XD
im greek btw

Name ONE thing you dislike about Kemalism.

provide evidence or neck yourself
"sun language" meme was retarded, but turkish children were never told that they are "romans"

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preteding of joining EU was the gun of Erdoğan to rekt kamalists in military. Nobody give a damn fuck about EU here desu.

If he meant Byzantines and Anatolians, he's technically not wrong.

Never, All T*rks should be removed

How about only the European part of Turkey is let into the EU?

Sho sho slave.

Hopefully never, Absolutely backwards trashpeople only good for making food for us westerners. They had a midge of hope with Ataturk but judging from the amount of hate he gets here i'll say these people are unfit for any civilized union of countries.

cuck

Insightful as always.

Population of Thrace region is 11,241,000. There are also 10m Turks allready in Europe. Turks would be the 6th largest ethnic group in EU legally.

It doesn't fucking work? The west shows no interest in Turkey other than being a dumbster and the guy doing the shitty work in the Middle east. Turkey tried to play nice with the west since K*mal got into power but its obvious that it doesn't fucking work. The west doesn't want Turkey, so why should Turkey continue K*mals legacy of sucking western cock?

>more than 1 million turks in Germany
more than 4 million*

here's some """"""""''insight"""""""""" for you cuck

rip sabahattin ali

murdered by atat*rk

Kind of is. Turks were moved to Anatolia by the Seljuks and that's the root of modern Turkey.

Any post-imperial country, really. Europe is the exception only because their seats of power were so far removed from their empires.

>tfw thousands of brave Turks died in Gallipoli just so K*mal could drink himself to death and ruin his country

>mfw WE WUZ ROMANS was the actual belief post-1453

Never
We Eurasian Union now

looks like a bunch of your compatriots have followed it in here

Let it be the final solution

>drink himself to death
This was after he finally came to his senses and understood that giving t*rks a country was a mistake. The world would be a much better place if the war of independence didn't happen. You can't treat t*rks like human beings because they simply aren't.

Who are you to give t*rks of all Anatolian people a whole country? They don't deserve it and if it wasn't for this dumb atat*rk, they couldn't get it. t*rks didn't accomplish shit other than raid and pillaging in their entire existence. Even the empires such as Ottoman and Seljuk founded by successful individual t*rks eventually understood this. They tried hard to damage control by shifting to Arab and Persian cultures, deferring t*urks to dumb labor and army. In fact, t*rk literally became an insult in high circles of Ottoman empire.

Anatolia was objectively better before t*rks and isl*m came. When Hagia Sophia was being built, t*rks barely registered as a tribe and were busy fucking horses.

Getting rid of t*rk was great but the fatal flaw was ignoring the priceless pre-t*rk Anatolian treasure that were the basis of the Western civilization. Arab and Persian cultures weren't good enough anymore.

They cut the link between pre and post t*rco-isl*mic Anatolia and this is why t*rks will never be European again. In fact, to talk of the objectively glorious ancient Anatolia as Turkey's history would be offensive to dumb t*rk. You may be surprised why dumb t*rk doesn't seize this obvious opportunity of greatness standing in front of his nose, but t*rk is the nation of countless almost deliberately missed opportunities.

T*rkey is an evolutionary dead end. They threw everything good they had away. No matter how hard they try now, those lands will never be as great as it was thousands years ago. The kind of great work that were done there thousands years ago will never be done again. If you want to see a killed civilization, look no further than T*urkey.

tldr

>T*rkey is an evolutionary dead end. They threw everything good they had away. No matter how hard they try now, those lands will never be as great as it was thousands years ago. The kind of great work that were done there thousands years ago will never be done again. If you want to see a killed civilization, look no further than T*urkey.


There you go you illitirate turan monkey.

>being this mad
did your mom cheat on your dad with a turk or something?

>bunch of your compatriots
kurds are not my compatriots, feel free to send more to afghanistan

pray tell if anatolia was sooo great 1000 years ago then how did we so easily conquer it
armenian pls go

Byzantine was shit most of the time too. Shit was dead when Rome split t bh. Ottomans *could* become good but then they got retards for sultan and then that went to shit too.

Turks create so much butthurt for some reason Europeans would rather be minority under k*rds, Arabs and Subsaharan Africans so never.

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