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it's a lot less danceable than its predecessors

nice bait

Unironically true. Jazz literally sounds like a random sequence of notes.

to you maybe

It tends to be very high-tempo though. But I agree that bebop is a lot more danceable than it is made out to be. I think part of it was that it's harder to dance to compared to the stuff that came before so it got a reputation for being hard to dance to that then stuck.

This. Fast drum beat, busy bass line with no discernable groove or melody and finally a sax hitting random notes as fast as possible over top of it.

Parents in the 50s would tell their kids it sounded like noise and they were actually fucking right.

What did jtg mean by this?

lol you have no clue what you're talking about

I firmly believe there's no way you can truly enjoy jazz unless you either grew up primarily listening to it and/or you play it yourself and understand the musical language.

Melodically it has nothing in common with any other popular form of Western music. It literally is just random notes. I mean fuck, I appreciate the art of improvisation as much as the next guy but what's so impressive when the musician can hit ANY note he wants? At least a Rock musician hits a sour note you have to admit he fucked up. Jazz is just like "lol i'm just expressing myelf" and all that bullshit.

One mythical, out-of-context quote from one jazz musician doesn't mean that jazz is all just random notes. In the proper context, you can make any note valid, but the context makes all the difference.

Just try it yourself. Go to youtube and search for "jazz backing track" and then hit play on any random one and pick up an instrument and try playing random notes over it. Even if you've never played that instrument before, it doesn't matter if you're just playing random notes right?

Then search for the same tune, but find a jazz musician who you've heard of playing it. The differences should be immediately apparent. If they aren't, feel free to post a recording of yourself playing over the backing track and I'm sure someone will be happy to point them out to you.

nice job regurgitating what you saw last thread