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2. How common is it for guys to start balding before age 25?
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Not the norm but more common than I used to think. I see plenty of guys at my college who are balding and also lots of guys under 30 in my city who are thinning/receding or have shaved heads. It started 1-3 years ago for me but I got off that train thanks to the medical miracle that is finasteride.
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It's pretty fucking common. Not full baldness but receding hairline by 25. Especially if you're a blonde dude.
1. Latin America
2. Not common at all.
It is normal before 25, people just tend to not realize until its completely obvious
>It started 1-3 years ago for me but I got off that train thanks to the medical miracle that is finasteride
Same with finasteride. In hindsight I probably began the process (very slowly) at about 15. Dad is bald.
It's fairly common here, maybe 5% have the fully defined M-shape by 20 and 15% by 25, just a guess though.
Not very common. At least not in my area. I'm roiding since I was 20. I'm 25 now and still have head full of thick hair.
>receding hairline by 25
How bad? If it's just like pic related then I wouldn't really say it's male pattern baldness since a lot of guys develop that hairline in their late teens or early 20s but it just stops and doesn't go further, especially in Germanic ethnic groups. My dad and his brothers were all like that, and they didn't start actually balding until their 40s.
I've literally never seen a bald mestizo.
I think it started around the time I turned 20 (November 2014). I noticed some slightly thinner and blonder spots above my temples and didn't think anything of it, it didn't really make a cosmetic difference until the summer of 2017 and last fall I finally accepted it and realized I was diffuse thinning on my crown and temples.
Been on fin for 2 months and I'm already seeing regrowth, so hopefully things will work out. No side effects either which is nice.
More like this, maybe not as extreme but your forehead just gets bigger and bigger. I have noticed that men that stay blonde as adults usually suffers this fate early.
Don't worry, money would solve a balding problem.
He proved it.
That's a pussy way to go about it. Just shave it off and go around with stubble on your face. You will look much better than with fake hair.
>mfw receeding hairline but really thick hair
That's what happened to the uncles on my mom's side. All of them were bald by 30. None of them kept blond hair as adults, though, most were like that as kids but were light brown as adults and the rest were gingers.
I seem to have gotten their early baldness but with my dad's pattern (he didn't start until his 40s but thinning on the crown + temples).
too bad the limiting factor of his life is autism instead of his hair
You get baldness from your mother's side since it's in the X chromosome. You generally need to look on your grandpa on that side to get an idea how you may turn out.
you realize you might as well inherit your grandma‘s X from your mother right
An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure. Plus most hair transplant clinics, at least the good ones, want you to take finasteride for a year before the transplant to stabilize your hair loss.
Also you don't really need to be Elon Musk rich, just middle class. A good FUE transplant might cost $3-10k, depending on the number of grafts.
>just shave it brah
My hair went like this dude's at 17 or 18. Maybe not quite that far back, but same pattern.
Then it stopped. Still the same at 25, but it's different to my dad's hair shape so I suspect it will start moving again one day.
It's actually from both. There are genes that influence adrogen receptors on all of the chromosomes, but one of the main ones is on the X.
My grandfather on my mom's side started balding in his 40s or 50s.
23andme said I was safe but that was the one trait test that was wrong for me. I've been on fin for a few months now.
Never said you couldn't. Just that looking at your grandpa is the most easy way to get some kind of idea what you might turn out to look.
that‘s not what I meant. Your mother has two X chromosomes. One from her father and the other from her mother.
You have a 50% chance of ending up with either one. So looking at your grandpa on your mum‘s side might be useless because you might not carry his X chromosome
fair enough
Fuck that until they can clone follicles. I don't want a strip of hair pulled off the back of my head.
Most guys bald like this guy though, which honestly looks fine for years.
This
money and effort can buy the look
picrel russian zuckerberg
wtf
>implying you can't buy good hair
Yeah, I knew that was what you meant. The men in my maternal grandmother's line were all bald pretty early, so that's probably where I got it from. Still, the genes come from both sides and maybe slightly teeter towards the y chromosome.
Most of the bad genes in my family are from that line. My great grandmother on that side tried to hang herself, pretty much everyone from there was an alcoholic too. My sister seemed to get mentally fucked up by that too.
It ain't easy bein cheesy.
My grandfather on my dad's side died with a full, thick head of hair. My grandfather on mom's side started balding at age 40. Är det över för mig?
>How common is it for guys to start balding before age 25?
Not very common. I think balding is more of a caucasian thing.
Just keep an eye on it and take fin if it gets bad dude.
Was the test accurate for you? Your results look better than mine.
Letting someone see your bald head is a
serious crime though.
>starting balding at 40
Who the fuck cares at that point? You should already have a wife and children then and if you don't have it it's pretty much too late.
>Was the test accurate for you?
For now.
I regularly check my hairline and crown for thinning. If I ever feel like it's happening, I'll immediately get on finasteride.
What the fuck
>and take fin if it gets bad dude.
I would never take finasteride. I study endocrinology and DHT is an extremely underrated hormone that is more or less key to male health, especially mental health.
What does finasteride actually do?
Glad someone gets it. Finasteride will cause some serious ED issues. Having hair is not worth not getting any erections even with viagra.
only people here who don't go bald are natives, anglos go bald, quebecers go bald, but natives keep a full head of hair
crispr when?
>wasting up to $10k on a hair transplant
Jesus Christ you people are really stupid aren't you. Hair is honestly not a big deal. Why do you guys care so much about it?
>Hair is honestly not a big deal.
Do you actually believe that?
Is it natural for white people to bald?
I thought fin only blocks one type of 5-alpha reductase and in turn only one type of fin compared to a stronger 5-ar inhibitor like duta.
For me I read the data and studies and decided it was worth the risk. So far it's fine, but with that being said I don't blame people who choose not to take it.
How old are you? If you've gotten through your mid 20s, you're probably good. It seems most guys either start balding in their early 20s or late 30s/early 40s but I haven't seen some hard data on that.
Yes. Actually I have more success now than when I had hair. I'm 27. Started going bald at 21. Women really never seemed to give a shit.
>How old are you?
I'm 23.
I'm not in the clear just yet.
Doesn't Finestradine also cause brain fog in many guys?
>losing IQ so that you can gain some mediocre amount of hair
Sounds like a bad deal.
It seems to hit scandinavians and arabs the worst in my experience.
It blocks this enzyme called 5-alpha reductase which is what turns testosterone into a different sex hormone called DHT. DHT in turn is what plays a role in hair loss, in people who are sensitive to it, it interacts with a protein signaling pathway that tells the hair follicles to shrink and eventually stop producing hair.
So fin can slow down and stop (or reverse if it's caught early) hair loss, but it does this by reducing DHT levels which for some people can cause some serious side effects.
>Finasteride will cause some serious ED issues
It does for some, not for all. There's also a lot of fear mongering about permanent side effects that persist after taking it, but studies show that they're incredibly rare.
>For me I read the data and studies and decided it was worth the risk. So far it's fine, but with that being said I don't blame people who choose not to take it.
That's a responsible and intelligent approach, at least.
blocks a variant of testosterone that is responsible for balding
common side effects are similar to low t, including libido
it's outsized, but it isn't an end all
fit and bald is similar to hair and a little chub
money and personality matter more for women
Even if women preferred bald guys, I'd want to keep my hair.
Also not everyone looks good bald. I just wouldn't be happy with myself as a bald man. I tried buzzing it for a month and hated it intensely.
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My doctor wouldn't prescribe it to me since it's not licensed for the treatment of hair loss, but there is this site that offers prescriptions: webdoctor.ie
They can still occur. Why would you risk so much for stupid hair? Dick is more important.
I don't have a strong sex drive anyway and I'd rather see a reduction in my libido desu
Wonderful!
Sure, neo-nazi.
worrying about physical attractiveness to that extent is very feminine behavior anyway
the reality is that bald or not, 99.9% of guys are not going to be pussy magnets for the way they look so it's best to compensate for that reality with a personality and some marketable skills
I've heard guys before say such dumb shit like "If I go bald I'll just kill myself"
Balding is often the first real sign of aging. I look at lines around my eyes and I'm reminded I have done jack shit with my life. Same sort of thing.
>fit and bald is similar to hair and a little chub
>money and personality matter more for women
Depends on the person, too. Some guys look great with shaved heads or a buzz. Some guys even look good with a power donut.
I do think if it makes you feel better about yourself, there's nothing wrong with getting a hair system (wig made from real hair that's glued to your head). When done right, they're pretty believable reddit.com
At the end of the day, I'm treating this for myself, not for women. If anything, my female friends and relatives are bigger on "just shave it brah!" camp than male ones. Now I see why women talk about wearing nice clothes or makeup for themselves rather than for men.
1.japan
2.very common
>I do think if it makes you feel better about yourself, there's nothing wrong with getting a hair system (wig made from real hair that's glued to your head).
this is one of the weirdest things about baldness
it's more acceptable to graft hair from other places onto your scalp in a x,y grid than wear a wig
black women wear wigs
most female celebritites use hair extensions
If you want to play with danger, there's also InHousePharmacy. You can get drugs without a prescription there, and you probably won't get caught but do it at your own risk. Trannies get hormones from there, and some guys get T from there for roiding.
It's probably cheapest with a prescription anyways but you might need to find the right pharmacy. When I first got it, they sent my prescription to Target and it was like $30/month but I had it switched to Costco where it's $12 for a 3 month supply.
This desu. I thought "fuck, I don't want to lose my hair before my virginity." For some reason I'm kinda bothered by looking more like an adult man instead of a teenage kid.
It's also kinda odd how there's a stigma around wanting to do anything about it too. Even without finasteride side effects, people think you should "just accept it" yet women spend tons of money on wrinkle cream. Plenty of teenagers take prescription meds on acne.
Plus most guys shave and get haircuts in the first place, so why not treat hair loss?
Yo I'm on finasteride too. I noticed my crown was balding/very very thin around 7 to 8 months ago, during that time I would also lose lots of hair in the shower to the point where the drain would get plugged with my hair.
Started fin at 1.25mg a day, one month in did not have any side effects aside from watery jizz every now and then that happens rarely now. 2 months in I noticed I stopped losing hair in the shower, and now 8 months in my crown has made a nice recovery.
Shit works well if you don't experience sides.
Fin doesn't cause ed. There's no link between fin and ed. If you experience ed after being on fin for 10 years well... that's not fin that's you.
I'm only on test and aromasin so have no problems with any of that shit. I still have hair.
I've just read somewhere that fina can cause horrible and pernament ED.
>I still have hair
Funny how it's always women and men who have no hair loss are always the ones who say "just shave it brah" or are anti-fin.
Are things back to how they were before? Do you have pics?
Pic related is my crown when I started fin and 3 weeks later. Obviously not much of an improvement but I've been on it for 2 months now and I think I'm seeing some new hairs on my hairline, crossing my fingers that things thicken up all around.
I've read shittons of studies and discussed it with my family doctor who I've known for 15+ years now before deciding I'll try it.
The people who get ED after going on fin for 15+ years are people who would have gotten ED anyway. If for some reason after a few months you get ED, just quit fin and you'll be fine.
It's recovering, my before is a little bit worse than your before. You see how you can see your scalp at the crown from that view? I could see a lot of my scalp, it looked terrible from that view. after 2 months or so it was a bit better, the important part was that I stopped losing hair, after 6 ish months I noticed a pretty decent improvement, I can still see my scalp a bit from that view now but it's nowhere near as bad, there's good coverage. I'm thinking that a year from now it'll be even better.
I'm only 23, started losing hair at the crown when I must have been 22, it might have been due to stress but on both sides of my family the men lose their hair in their late 20s early 30s, with some having lost it in their early 20s so that's probably the case for me as well.
>Funny how it's always women and men who have no hair loss are always the ones who say "just shave it brah" or are anti-fin.
yeah, it's always women, men who have hair, or men who were scared to try finasteride and other similar products that prevent hair loss
trying to dig up photos rn if I can
I once tried pumpkin oil, because I read it has the same effect as finasteride, and I didn't need prescription. I don't used it for a long time so I can't say if it works, but what I remember is that it dramatically lowered my libido. Not that I wouldn't get hard, but I would look at porn and it wouldn't turn me on. Now I only use minoxidil
>I could see a lot of my scalp, it looked terrible from that view. after 2 months or so it was a bit better, the important part was that I stopped losing hair, after 6 ish months I noticed a pretty decent improvement
Makes me hopeful, I'm 23 as well. It's really hard to say when my hair loss started but I would say it started becoming cosmetically different a year or so ago. Even in pictures from my 2016 vacation my hair looked great compared to now.
>it's always women, men who have hair, or men who were scared to try finasteride and other similar products that prevent hair loss
I think women are oblivious to hair loss. Hell, I didn't notice it much until I started balding myself.
A female friend of mine insisted that pic related wasn't balding even though the guy is like NW4.
Pic related is my crown today under natural light. Even under bathroom light it seems better
Japan has one of those hyper-feminized cultures that can't stomach seeing bald heads.
Also baldness is apparently rarer in Asia or something.
My hair started thinning right when I began puberty and I began to bald noticeably at age 16.
I'm 23 now and I have the hairline of a 50yo.
I've been using rogaine since november, but it really hasn't done a lot. It caused some small hairs to grow which makes my crown look filled in, but my hairline look messy
How bad is it? It's also better to use finasteride since it's lower maintenance, plus it's not like minox doesn't have it's own sides.
it's noticeable if you're looking for it, but isn't that bad
definitely worse after a long night out
I haven't really noticed any side effects from rogaine, maybe my hands gets itchy sometimes, but that's it
I've heard of people getting bloated or more aged faces or even heart problems from minox.
>A good FUE transplant might cost $3-10
it cost max 2000€in turkey istanbul, they have very notorious clinic
Isn't the quality from the Turkish clinics questionable?
I wouldn't recommend minoxidil simply because of the potential problems it can cause to your circulation.
on the other side, finasteride has some anti aging properties, I know two brothers both in their 30s, the one on fin still looks early 20s whereas the other looks like he's in his early 40s
no in fact they have the same standars as european one, i read tons of reviews of people who went this way on forum and they are happy with that. In turkey balding is very common so they are use to. It's the best option imo
Yeah, that shit seems much worse than fin. I have no idea why people think "fin is too much but minox seems safer"
the clinic in turkey is good
problem is that when people get a hair transplant, they don't supplement it with finasteride (which is what a lot of clinics here and in the US do) so they lose the hair and complain after
germà...
>they don't supplement it with finasteride
well it's their fault, they should do their class and learn everything there is to learn. Right now im using minoxidl 5% and ricin oil, i have some good result after 3 month but i plan to do a hair transplant as a definitive solution.
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Pretty common but that's among natives which I'm not still I'm balding ehich ofcourse sucks hard.
have you looked into using a hair system? If I ever went completely bald I'd want to use that
Si?
This is considered white in America
Are you arab? Most of my arab friends are balding hard.
no it look somehow fake irl, if i go complete bald then i'll just go buzz cut, fake hair, toupee etc are just ridiculous
Just eat healthier and exercise if you're so fucking worried about balding. Pumpkin seeds and rosemary oil help a lot unlike minoxidil which destroys your libido.
blading is genetic, lifestyle have very little incident beside big trauma
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Then blame your mother and grandfather. There is nothing you can do about it.
You can reverse it to an extent with a healthier diet and daily activity. Certain things help too.
1. It is genetic
2. There is something you can do about it
Plenty of diseases with genetic components are treatable. Depression, heart disease, hypothyroidism, asthma, the list goes on.
Baldness is no different. New treatments are being researched and we already have finasteride which is demonstrated to be safe and effective in stopping hair loss. The vast majority of users report no side effects.
Diet has literally nothing to do with it. It can be related to other forms of hair loss but you have to be seriously malnourished if it's to the point of losing hair. It's 100% genetics but like I said it's treatable.
What are the telltale signs of balding in your early 20's?
I'm 23 like some here, my dad is 56 and has a still intact hairline although he has less hair then when he was younger but is crown and hairline are all intact for a mid 50's person.
My grandfather on my mother's side still has hair at 85 but his hairline is receded and his crown has less hair (once again it's mostly intact and he's in his 80's.)
My uncle from my moms side has a full head of hair but some of my uncles from my dads side are balding a bit but not much from what I can tell. My granddad from my fathers side died when my dad was young but from what he tells me had hair. Will I be balding?
Masturbation accelerates hair loss in men that explains why this board is so fucking scared of losing their hair because they jerk off to men so much.
sounds like you'll be fine
you'll notice if you start balding btw