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Why did they call it the xbox 360?
Alright Sup Forums, what is the best Fallout and why is it New Vegas?
Play hero you like
This is the face of a slut
*shills your indie game*
Don't m-m-m-misunderstand my flames -- I just meant fun and games
Need an active WoW Retail Account for Classic
This is the loli colloquially known as "Kud"
Now that the dust has been settled, Peach or Pauline?
Who else
Skullgirls saved the Western 2D Fighting Game Genre
Shilling
Arland alchemists lifetime achievements:
NOT EVEN DEATH CAN SAVE YOU FROM ME
The new PlayStation handheld will be shown at PSX next month...
What video games villains that start out as virgins but end up becoming Chad’s
Comfy emulation Sunday
Female characters in games shouldn't be cute
This guy shows up saying our universe will be destroyed but we have one chance...
I've decided to do a playthrough of the core Mario titles. Which games would you consider the 'main series'?
Battlefront 2 : EA Shits the Bed
Resident Evil 7
If you don't have mercy on your team then your team is going to lose
LAWBREAKERS ISNT DEAD
Play Overwatch
I don't understand why the Switch is only slightly more powerful than the Wii U. I get it in portable mode...
Have you ever fallen in love with a girl from a videogame?
Western democracies finally destroyed video games
AC Origin
What did naughty dog mean by this?
Was this a fair score?
$15 for some garbage takeaway that I will eat in 10 minutes
How do you decide your main in fighting games user? i always go for the brute/grappler/get personal kind of character...
Opinions?
Woah
Who should be his Queen?
Name one game in which weapon durability is actually a fun concept
The PS3/360 generation of gaming was the worst generation of all time
Why Sup Forums regards this game as "Casul's RPG"?
Should I buy a Switch?
Shitty RPG design
Brutally killed over 500 human beings
The antidote potion works for every kind of poison regardless of its origin
*betrays you*
HAH
Can you imagine? Some people actually bought Sonic Force instead of Sonic Mania+A Hat in Time...
Why is this acceptable?
When I first watched avgn stuff I didnt mind mike but lately he's incredinly aggravating to me...
I just finished this. Did I like it?
Dragon Ball FighterZ
Post them 3x3
Now that boostshit and nu-Modern 3D Sonic is universally reviled...
WTF i love BOTW now
Should I buy it?
For years I've been dreaming about a game where the world would be so sparse that travel between points of interest...
Peasants in Warhammer Fantasy are replaced with masked plate-wearing faceless men
Why is Gravity Rush so fun, Sup Forums...
I YIELD I YIELD
Since it's become increasingly obvious that the mods won't do their job and Hiro simply doesn't care...
Wolfenstein
Overwatch One Tricks
Buy the jack and daxter trilogy because I used to like the first game
I hate to admit it, but Darks Souls is too hard for me. I can't even beat the fucking gargoyle boss
Wait... HOLD TEH FUCK UP. I have to buy a $60 PlayStation plus membership just to coop on Nioh??
Why do they always make you kill Hitler in these games?
5 hours
Why is video game music such an underappreciated form of art...
It's been 3 years. You don't STILL hate her, right?
FIRST GAME
Why does every Final Fantasy character look so Asian?
What games do you find relaxing user ?
Digibro reviews Mario Odyssey
Games with political and SJW themes are ok only if japan does it
This is a game from 2003
Walk into GameStop
AveragePCfat.webm
ITT: Games where the 100% completion is both fun and worth the time
What do you think of Zeraora, from the new Pokemon game?
I-I-ITS A GOOD GAME BECAUSE IT'S COMFY
Controller Must-plays
Are you a completionist?
Marvel vs Capcom Infinite roster
Why aren't you a pro tournament player yet, Sup Forums?
To be fair you have to have a very high IQ to understand Digital Devil Saga
C or ctrl to crouch?
Diablo 3
Do you play vidya with RL friends or just online friends?
Best TPS games
Based SEGA, Persona 5 on Steam when?
Is it possible to have a thread about this game without "it's better than literally everything in the world"...
It's Impossible To Separate Cuphead From The Era That Inspired It
It's OK when japan does it
Why is 3DS emulation such a sad, miserable joke?
PC rate thread
What the fuck was his problem?
ITT: Vidya fetishes
What's the future of western cRPGs?
Don't mind me, I'm just the best DLC for Fallout 3
This is one of the greatest games of all time
Show me a more iconic gun
Why do we hate this game again?
What did Riot Games mean by this?
Which weapon will you buy?
Haha
NEOTOKYO°
Why am i a pussy bitch? i want to play games like stalker, metro, singularity but i'm too scared...
Mfw PCfags will never EVER play Red Dead Redemption 2
Weeks before release
BIST DU EIN JUUUUDE??
This is fun. Let's talk about how fun it is
You will never ever play Dark Souls 3 for the first time again
Redditfag who leaked Injustice DLC claiming DMC5 is happening at PSX with a bunch of other stuff
80% female main cast are ok only if japan does it
Just vote with your wallet
ITT: Obscure gems you played as a kid
Game's final area is the first area, but all destroyed/ravaged/invaded
How does it make you feel?
What will be the legacy of the Wii U?
Shit boss battles thread
2017
Nintendo Switch LEAKS
For Honor
Plays a singleplayer game in 2017
Ten years from now
Escort missions
Xenoblade 2 Microtransactions
How come the 90's is the worst decade ever but has the best videogames?
Wow! It still looks terrible
The Real White Male Hatred Simulator: Robot Dinosaurs Edition
Friendly reminder to avoid at all costs
Would you play a 40K first person shooter?
It makes me sad that PCbros will never know the ultimate comfiness, that is couch gaming
Zero Fucking Games
I NEVER FELT LIKE
I like repetition. What are the best games for an autist like me?
Playing old video game
He don't have time to be /fit/ and play vidya
Looks like Crowbcat will be making another compilation
MGS V has a better plot and is a better Metal Gear Solid game than MGS 4
More shooters need this bad boy
Microtransactions are bad!
It has begun
Denuvo causing performance issues on pc
We will never get another comfy city building game from Impression Games
ITT: Characters who did literally nothing wrong
Let's have a comfy sunday thread. What are you playing right now?
Main healer
*inhales*
Graduate
Let's fighting love
What was last good games workshop licenced game?
Skyrim turns six years old
One of the best selling games of all time
Zero fucking games
Name *ONE* thing that makes FFXIV enjoyable that is not dressing up like a slut or grind for endgame gear on an eternal...
Enemies explode and/or leave poison clouds when killed
What are some games where I can play as a bunny?
Walking home from school or to the shop with parents/siblings/friends
It's time to discuss the best RPG ever made
Anyone hyped?
Fate
China ruined movies
So Sup Forums, did you ever land that dream job in the gaming industry?
Is it good/worth 25$?
Time to see how fucked I can get by RNG
ITT JoJo references in vidya
It's been a few months, so what did you think about Persona 5?
DC won
What was Anduin thinking right in this moment?
Elex looks like sh-
Kill off Kotaku
Nioh vs. Bloodborne
It Takes 40 hours to Unlock a Hero. Spreadsheet and Galactic Assault Statistics
ITT: games only (you) played
Warcraft
Webms
The Witcher
How the fuck can anybody defend this piece of dogshit...
Game has big chinese community
Shadow Tactics
Be honest, why do you always play as female characters?
ITT well done black characters
Meanwhile on DarkRP Sup Forums
Why won't people recognize yakuza 0 is better then mafia 3
I have an idea
Shills don't exi-
Should I turn motion blur on or off? I kinda like it in motion but it makes screenshots look dumb
What game do you go back to in order to remind yourself that you actually enjoy video games?
Be Sledgehammer
Would it be a stretch to call Cuphead "souls-like"?
Hah, really made me think
Backlog keeps growing
Cod ww2 exp gain has been set to 2x since launch by accident
When is the last time you've been severely challenged in a video game, Sup Forums?
Kotaku just leaked the planned payment model for Classic
ITT: those who didn't deserve their fate
Wargame thread. Post decks
What's upcoming for the switch?
Can we get a late nite battlestation thread? Comfy edition
Yes. One of my favorite games. Good music, good atmosphere, good game play
You did your speech on video games, didn't you?
Startinf a new emerald run. Do you guys have any interesting / gay ideas for some self imposed rules?
What happened to them?
Why haven't you pre-ordered?
The only one who had the balls to say destiny 2 is shit and cod ww 2 is shit
Soul Calibur 6 announcement next month
Push to talk
The developer and director of the last game you played are now making a sequel to the second-to-last game you played
Party member betrays you
MHW shitposting continues
Still no crack
Graphics thread?
Wow Classic Thread
Dad walks in
So this thing might actually be in the works since Nintendo just recently filed the following trademark
So what does Sup Forums think of Myst and similar point and clicks?
What the fuck, this is literally impossble
ITT: best rpgs
Are you over 25 and own a computer?
You Hear It You Lose: Hard Mode Edition
20 million
Why do girls like Bowser so much? He's a big, fat asshole
You can speak with the animals
This is the best Telltale/Quantic Dream styled game
What went right?
That kid who listened to video game music
Just doing my part for the kids out there
Vidya filename thread
Draw a scene from a video game from memory
Does this thing have more than two worthwhile games?
This is Angel, and she's a fighter, say something nice to her
YOU WANT SLEEP? TOO BAD, IT'S KOREA TIME
RIP Sony
Who /hype/ here
Alright...
What's next for this video game character's career?
Overwatch has 30 million pla-
Do you play phone games?
ITT: Summarize a game with only a picture (other anons may guess the game if they want)
Is the mass effect trilogy worth playing?
RE7 was better then most of the series
Is this game worth picking up? I've been looking for an MMO to pick up, but I've got a question...
What's your favourite character design from a dead MOBA?
What are the worst way to die in video game?
Is the multiplayer really that bad?
Who is your LOTY, Sup Forums?
What are some video games where the hero slowly turns into a villain?
Game gets a 10/10 review
If you didn't play through cuphead with this you didn't get the correct experience
Height sliders
Talon is the best team
These two games are very similar, yet one is a timeless hit while the other a shameful failure
What do you think of this, Sup Forums ?
Best pokemon game judging by today's standards?
Sup Forums, it's azusa birthday RIGHT NOW. did you play her game and/or watch her in her anime series? yes, right?
Why aren't you playing GOTY, Sup Forums? Is PLAYERUNKNOWN the Da Vinci of video games...
5
Played this for the first time ever on my SNES Classic today. Why didn't anyone tell me how good it is?
Play Warframe
Why haven't you preordered her game?
ITT: unoptmized western trash made to sell video cards
Will this be a 50+ hours game?
Ever thought of making your own game Sup Forums?
Here's your controller bro!
What is your dream game user? Tell me, this is a safespace
Is it good Sup Forums?
64 > Sunshine
What’s the cringiest thing you’ve ever done?
Post your Odyssey complaints
Discuss Petscop
What the fuck? How does that works?
What the fuck was his problem?
I'm trying to make a list of as many games as possible that have swamps in them, even if it's just in 1 stage or era
Hardest achievement/trophy you have earned?
How can we bring down EA from within?
Can we talk about how stupid this ending was?
Sup Forumsidya Draw Thread
This is GOTY even with the loot boxes
Do you play your switch in public?
So I think this was the he better Mario Switch exclusive
Post an image
Mother of God
Final Fantasy 7 remake
Doom runs on toaster PC's well
The lore in this game makes no fucking sense
Who's to blame?
Refuse to buy games because they are published and/or developed by that company because reason(s)
This is, without a doubt, the worst character in the GTA franchise. Perhaps even in all of gaming
*censors your free speech*
There are two buttons in front of you. One button creates a game that is a perfect 10/10 in your eyes...
How did Undertale get away with being one of the best games of all time?
You have one minute to name a game more useless than Toad Treasure Tracker...
Both utterly massive failures
Excuse me, Sup Forums? I was wondering where I might find a flaw in this game
What are some games that feature large magnums?
Breath of Fire thread
FOR THE ALLIANCE
I'm playing this, and getting pretty pissed at the third mission boss, just finished it...
Why is the PS4 or Switch not selling out but the Xbox is?
Elder Scrolls 6 Wishlist
Have you ever been attracted to a video game character?
What are some other games that only autists can be good at?
Video Game Opening Music
Buddy of mine suggests a vs of a 40k character vs Kel'thuzadAhriman
Game automatically configures the graphic settings
Guys... I think my copy of Super Mario Odyssey is glitched... is Mario supposed to look like this...
What are some Star Wars stories/games with Imperial protagonists who DO NOT DEFECT?
MONDAY MONDAY MONDAY NIGHT
What are you doing tonight?
Imagine the last game you played
How does this game rank among the Resident Evil series?
When you first saw Halo, were you blinded by it's majesty?
Does she have feelings for Mario?
There is no SJW shit in this game. Everything you have seen is out of context...
Yet again third parties with shitty ports on Switch
Where the fuck is this thread?
Post video game companies that literally disgust you
Final boss gives monologue
Hello, sir. My name is Goombob. It's nice to meet you, today is your first day in Goom University...
Vidya Ads
IT'S OVER SMT WON
Sam Hyde review
Finish playing odyssey
Can women EVER be good at video games?
ITT: come up with a pick up line based on the last game you played
Will it be a true example of samurai kino?
I really tried but i can't get into this garbage
Nu-Battlefront 2
What went wrong?
We will never get another serious saints row game
Guy wants to play non-meta hero, gets banned
This is an example of a streaming website dedicated to video games in 2017
WoW Classic
ITT: Characters for Super Smash Bros. 5
Stop liking cuphead
Speedrunning is the most degenerate act man has ever come up with
*squat*
It's going to be shit and you know it. If it even ever comes out
Acceptable gamer clothing
So, who was wrong?
Has anyone else played Stache Smash? It's a strategy action sidescroller
He's not an idort
XIV
This is actually a very well made game as far as musou go. It runs well, the maps are varied...
Is this good character design?
Hear me out Sup Forums
We will never, ever see a real Paper Mario game again
InFAMOUS
So is it dead?
Sup Forums I wanna play Mario Kart 8 Deluxe, you up for some races?
Here's your controller bro
Sonic Forces has bombed
Battlerite
YOU'RE A HABITUAL FLIRT
Raita's designs are fucking disgusting...
Name a more punchable face
OVERWATCH HATE THREAD
Why do people hate the driving so much?
Says he buys his games to “support the devs”
Things that make you not buy a vidya
Is Sup Forums on the objective?
Is it overrated?
What went so fucking right?
Best graphic on xbox
Came form Sup Forums-/mlp/-Sup Forums-Sup Forums
Did Sony win 2018 already before the year began?
2nd gen
FFXI thread
Final boss can one hit kill you and takes no damage
WHERE IS IT
The Walk
Post your top five games
The Great Debate
Have no job
What exactly's stopping these guys from straight up terrorising the Mushroom Kingdom whenever they want?
Dragon Ball FighterZ leaks
Tank is lalafell
What are some games about cooking?
LEAP THAT WALL
Characters that need their own game
ITT: post your main from your favorite Fighting Game and other Anons rate you based on your tastes
Best party member dies
Nintendo is winning
Are you hyped for Pokemon Switch, Sup Forums?
Naruto to Boruto Shinobi Striker
Why is the Switch such a huge success?
Will Shanna take it again? In order for her to win, she must stay close for one more hour...
Finally learn her moveset through patience
How do I make the battery for this piece of shit last longer? I turned the lightbar off and it didn't do shit
What are some games that feature a redemption storyline?
Sonic Heroes
I have this game so fucking much the graphics are fine sound design is fine all good the combat is fucking horrendous...
Is Sup Forums excited for Valve's upcoming card game?
It is time
Is he /our guy/?
World of Warcraft
Which MOBA is the best? League of Legends or Dota 2?
Game Grumps
Why do some adults buy Switch?
You lived long enough to see another Ocarina of Time-caliber Zelda and Super Mario 64-quality Mario
Is she right?
Hello I am gamer from brazil and I play old games when they are cheap because new games not really cheap...
How did this kid survive for 200 years in a fridge without food or water when Ghouls explicitly...
How many people can you stab Sup Forums?
Post vidya scenes that women will never understand
This is a Japanese Goblin, say something nice about it
Game setting based off medieval Europe
Is this the most soulless game ever?
Ban Overwatch from Sup Forums
Are we finally ready to admit that it was a masterpiece?
Why does everyone love 2B but nobody likes A2?
H I D D E N G E M S
Time is running out for you to pre-order, Sup Forums
Listening to the first episode of super best friendscast
I'm about 28 missions into this game...
Prot paladin joins your party
Games with wasted potential
Naoto!
Pay $60 for a game
This is the best fucking zelda ever. prove me wrong
Is there a way to get good or it's just all about luck?
Das Bo Schitt lives!
Nioh on PC is a flop and nobody is buyi-
Any 360 games you would like an enhanced version of Sup Forums?
>>396533697
Diabolo 3
Why won't the game let me go out?
Now that Xenoblade Chronicles 2 is on the horizon...
Overwatch is imploding
Here's your controller bro
What was/were the last game(s) you purchased through Jewmazon Sup Forums?
LOL
Remember me?
Needs more GOAT games dammit
Average switch owner
The best first person shooter of this console generation now in stunning 60fps 4k
Let's try again. What's your favorite game(s), Sup Forums?
I'm gonna do it
VR Thread
How come these fucks didn't get a video game?
2017 Game OST of the year
Tfw put off playing this for years
Switch port also being made by Panic Button
What are your thoughts on speedrunning...
What
Who’s the autist who made this?
Character/skill is so OP that you are at a disadvantage if you don't use it every time
Is the hate justified?
Did you grab your slice of the giant omelette today?
Sup Forumsermin Sup Forumseekend
ITT: games you're glad you pirated
FFXI
Is he our guy?
ITT: "Oh yeah that happened"
Nintendo won
You have been practicing those chains, RIGHT user?
Why was everyone so sociable in MMOs back then?
Tfw literally no upcoming games interest you
Enemies can inflict status effects
I have 30 bucks on eshop. What should I buy?
Skyrim was 6 years ago
ITT: 11/10 games
Why isn't Vert as poplar as the other Neps?
Mario odyssey
Sup Forums SATURDAY NIGHT MOTHER FUCKERS
Anyone else hate it when Sup Forums shills shitty games on the board?
Why do so few games do cloaks right, or even have cloaks at all?
I did it reddit!
IIT Buyer's remorse
Are you ready for Death Stranding?
How do we go from this
RIDERS ON THE STORM
Discuss this series
Why does AC Origins have fully modeled horse vaginas?
I want to try this series out since I've been reading some interesting stuff in threads about it whenever people...
Make post or thread about Odyssey
Are the PCbros enjoying it?
Dokkan battle
RIP Overwatch
Why haven't they done a decent videogame?
Enemies can't climb ladders
Best weapon type?
I enjoy the fighting in DoA and think the controversy surrounding holds is overblown by people who act like their...
PLAYSTATION EXPERIENCE 2017
So now that the dust has settled, can we agree that it was okay by Sonic standards?
Play Team Fortress 2
Appreciation thread of waste of human potential
I am returning this game. I can’t take this anymore
ITT: Party members who are based
Anne Takamaki is the most beautiful female character of the 10's. You can't do better
Games render at 4k regardless of whether you have a 4k TV or not
So Pyra is pretty much confirmed Loli of the Year right?
Diablo universe looks really cool
Male character of the previous game came back as a female in the sequel
Well gg nintendo you win just looked for doom. I figured it would fail...
Just when you thought MHW couldn't get any more casual
Which should Nintendo release as their inevitable alternate model?
Playing Switch version of a game
Xenoblade chronicles 2 thread
I'm Boba Fett fighting alongside Kylo Ren
At somepoint we all played this when we were back in 2001 for the first time so to those that have...
What's a good (easy mode) PvE build for a noob?
Choose team
TFW you're in despair
ITT buyer's remorse
Party member betrays you
Sup Forumsermin Sup Forumseekend
Damn
ONII-CHAN STOP BUYING ME TURN-BASED GAMES...
Tfw rich neet
What went so horribly wrong?
Confess
Why does ATTP universally get praised, but Minish cap gets underrated...
lol
Sup Forumsidya Draw Thread
Black character
Did anyone actually play this game for PVE...
Finally got around to playing this, why do people like this game? The 3 day mechanic is shit...
This game is pretty fucking comfy
WILL KEEP GLUED TO THE SCREEN
Which one's better?
Heres your controller, bro
Game Collecting
Sup Forums
What is the Hindu Mythology of video games?
Is anyone here a wagecuck? How do you have time and energy for videogames?
Why are walking sims prasied?
Why isn't body awareness standard in First Person games?
Boss is immune to status effects
Gravity Rush thread
Have you actually met any of the "Cool social Switch player" demographic in public as advertised?
Male
What the hell was his motivation?
I'm playing through .Hack GU for the first time now that Last Recode is out
Why don't you have a 21:9 monitor yet Sup Forums?
I just want a TMNT game where all the mutants from the toylines are somehow in it
Assassins Creed Origins
Why does nobody try to beat Bethesda?
I would have loved to sit in on the meeting where everyone went "Yeah we're going to make this character a thing that...
So when is Nintendo going third party? With massive sale declines...
Fresh strawberries came up today
Order parts for a new rig online
Why are so many of the fans of this game larping faggots...
Imperial Perspective
Epic Mafia with Sup Forums
Xbox > ps2
I have a thirst for games that have a loot system, grindy and long as hell. can you recommend me some games of that?
If you don't like lootboxes, then don't buy them
Is this one of the worst Final Fantasy ever made?
December Nintendo Direct details
Any greentexts or stories about old friends you played games with that you never saw again?
Want to make a cabinet
Be me, 3 years ago
Pic related
What games did you find easy to platinum?
COD LOOKS LIKE THAT
I'm about to fucking kill myself
The final boss of the best Fire Emblem game is a basic dragon
"(Donkey Kong Country proves) players will put up with mediocre gameplay as long as the art is good"
Hail knight! You seek my relics with a worthy heart!
Is he right?
MOTHERFUCKER
This is a Japanese interpretation of the Chinese monk Xuanzang
Whats the appeal of this series?
Is this canon?
Video game streaming website in flames
Whats your reaction after you beat an extremely difficult boss you’ve spent days trying to beat?
Void Elves
When you can choose between "good" alignment party members, and "evil" ones... which do you choose on your first go?
Why does this game feel so soulless compared to Galaxy/Sunshine/64?
List 3 legitimate reasons you haven't built a gaming PC yet
I am actually really enjoying this. Why does everyone here say it's a shit game?
But vice city, it’s not the first :rire:
It's simple: post a picture - get a game recommendation
How do you pick your fighting game main, v?
I hate him. I hate him from very bottom of my heart!
Sup Forumsermin Sup Forumseekend
Why does Japan love using Nobunaga in so many video games?
Bruh Nintendo looking out for us brothas
Is there a point in buying this now?
BattleStation General
What game best matches this music?
Johnny vs Sonic Forces
Lootboxes are ruining this industry, and there's nothing we can do about it
Get told by Sup Forums it's shit
The future truly is now
Is injustice 2 worh 40 shekels?
What locations would you like to see in the next Sly game?
LAWBREAKERS THE BEST ARENA SHOOTER EVER MADE IS FREE FOREVER ON STEAM !!!!!!!!!
What did they mean by this?
Why is it so hard to find out what platforms this game will be released for...
Tony Hawk's
Greatest ever gaming achievement
When did Sup Forums start hating handhelds? Every time one is brought up its always
LIFE IS PAIN
Is the master difficulty just a meme?
When is there going to be a price drop?
ITS OUT
>>396503018
If I went and picked this up right now would I have fun? Is it a good Pokemon game or is it shit like Sun and Moon?
Are they finished in the console business?
This fucking guide keeps telling me to go to my "Appdata" folder so I can back up my save file. I can't fucking find it...
4k 60FPS
Amazing story
Entry team to TOC!
DOOMED
Is she the best Tales protagonist?
So are we gonna talk about this?
Eiyuu Senki
Be honest Sup Forums how much have you spent on it so far? i'm close to $600 right now
5 SASs vs 10 Marines
/pikmin/
Why don't more developers do this? There is ZERO ways to properly combat piracy, so why not provide your own torrent?
>>396501365
You now remember the Nintendo Switch™ Reveal trailer:
How do you like your Lizardmen, Sup Forums?
Game designers in 2017 seem pretty nice
Zelda
Average switch owner
FUCK that lightening dog. Fucking uninstalled. You're a self hating retard if you like this game
Nice 100% you have there... It'd be a shame if something-
Why more much are not horizontal platformers?
Pick torbjorn
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